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Contents 1 Erawan NP and other help 2 image not appearing 3 Tuul 4 Migjid Janraisig 5 Migjid Janraisig article history 6 Bogda Khan 7 Romanisation of Mongolian

[edit] Erawan NP and other help

It was a pleasure to give your articles some polishing, especially as they are about the topic I try to take care most - Thailand. As I wrote the article on Si Sawat district just shortly ago I remembered that it had a good photo for the park already, and adding the missing links towards those articles, or fixing the categories was easy when knowing almost every article on Thailand at least a bit.

The help on how to write articles, how to links, images and more complicate stuff like table, is of course also available in other languages, though it of course depends on how much active the respective Wikipedia - so the english Help:Contents in Thai is at th:วิกิพีเดีย:ความช่วยเหลือ, in koreanish at ko:위키백과:도움말 and so on - simply see the Interwiki links in left toolbar. But for example in Lao there's no translation of the help, as the Lao Wikipedia is still in its infancy with nearly no contributors. But the Wiki markup is supposed to be rather easy, so it should be possible to grasp a lot just by looking at the source code of other articles. But as you have already seen, there'll always be someone to take care of the things you started and polish it. And in case you have a specific question you also ask me, or any other experienced Wikipedian.

By the way, Wikipedia:School and university projects will probably give you some more hints on how to use Wikipedia in your classes most effectively. I am looking forward to your and your students contributions about Thailand, there's still a lot topics missing and incomplete short articles only, like the WikiProject Thai districts I am currently working on... andy 21:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Andy Okay--but not being a computer expert, I find I get lost; I'll work my way into things gradually. I'll check out the education site for our Winter quarter that begins in January I've been doing a lot of Mongolian stuff as well. Do you read Thai, or is your Lebensgefaerhte a Thai?--I have a Korean wife. You seem to know Lao as well a little; I gather the languages are akin. One request: I'd like to add a Franzl Lang image to my article about him. I tried reading the tutorial and found the image, but got stuck on the question of public use.

I've added the image from the German article, guess that was the one you intended to add. I can read a bit Thai, only when it comes to the rare letters I get lost sometimes. But my main problem is the lack of vocabulary, though I am learning it for three years now it's still a long way to go until I can read a normal text without checking a dictionary (or asking my wife) every second word. You guessed right - my wife is a Thai. But for Lao I don't know anything, all I did with that language so far was copy-and-paste... But given the historical relations between the two countries I am also interested into Lao topics a bit. andy 21:35, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] image not appearing

Thanks, Andy. I'm not getting the link on either the de or Eng Franzl Lang site--just a red x. Is that a problem with me or the image?

I also added a something about nicknames on the Thai culture page. Perhaps you could run it by the panraya. (Grueese an die Frau Doktor Gemahlin!; do you speak English together most of the time?). By the way, that article seems pretty poor . . . Any suggestions?

For the image I made a bug report at bugzilla, apparently the plus character in the image name makes problems. There are sometimes problems with images not showing up, so when I added that photo and it didn't show I did not think about it much. But as it now still does not work, and other images show, I noticed that the image name contains a potentially problematic character. Now lets see when a developer will have time to fix this small bug.

Sadly my wife does not enjoy editing here, but your new section fit with all of my knowledge, otherwise I would have changed it already. The names in Thailand IMHO could well be made into an article on it own, there are quite a lot of topics - the usage of first names in most cases, the history of the last names, special last names like "na Ranong", historical names which were in fact more a title than a name. There's an article de:Thailändische Familiennamen in German, so far noone started it in English however. But you can add it in the "requested articles" section of Thailand notice board if you don't have time or knowledge to start it yourself... andy 18:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

My wife has similar computer loathing; I'll look at the German article and put s.th. together in English. Thanks.

--Nick

Andy--just called it "Thai names." Nothing great, but it's a start. --Nick

[edit] Tuul

Created redirect to Tuul River.

For future reference, the format is #REDIRECT [[PAGENAME]]. - CobaltBlueTony 17:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Tony. I tried that (without the <nowiki>) business on a new page--didn't work; is there another entity called a "redirect page?" Or I just type this on the "create a new article?" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nhrenton (talk • contribs). 12:36, November 30, 2006

PAGENAME is the name of the page to which you would like the page you're creating to redirect to.

For example:

The page [[Tuul]]'s only content is #REDIRECT [[Tuul River]].

Hope this helps. - CobaltBlueTony 17:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Migjid Janraisig

Why did you make a new article about Migjid Janraisig when there is already an article on Avalokiteshvara?—Nat Krause^(Talk!) 06:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Migjid Janraisig article history

I came across MJ (and thus wrote that article first) in a purely Mongolian (travel) context--so it took me a while to figure out that the two were the same deity; my Mongolian sources didn't seem to know (or consider important) the Avalokiteshvara name.

The ignorance seemed to be mutual; the Buddhism articles seemed to be largely silent on Mongolian contexts. For example, I found it interesting that the Avalokiteshvara article entirely omitted this Mongolian name--I have since added it to the Avalokiteshvara article. The reason lies in Mongolian Buddhism reawakening after a 70-year nap, I guess; Mongolia and Buddhism seem to be rediscovering each other.

Anyway, I think the Mongolian name with its accompanying context certainly deserves its own entry. But I would be happy to put the Avalokiteshvara link in a more prominent position: "Migjid Janraisig, widely known as Avalokiteshvara in other countries, is the Mongolian buddha of compassion . . ."

Finally, the identity and nomenclature of bodhisattvas seem to be theologically tricky questions; I rather reckon that Mongolian Buddhists might be offended to be redirected to Avalokiteshvara.Nhrenton 12:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

You can undo the redirect yourself as well - see Help:Reverting. However I think that redirect is correct, though it might have been nicer to first put a notice with the {{mergeto}} on the article, so this change can be discussed first. Normally we avoid to have more than one article on the same topic, so a section within Avalokiteshvara covering the things specific to Mongolian tradition is the IMHO better approach, as otherwise we'd have many articles which repeat all the things common in the different traditions. Only if that section gets too long it can be made into a separate article, same as e.g. the article on Thailand has only a short introduction on the geography and leads you to a separate detailed article with the {{main}} template.

A different note - you put your request on my userpage, but to talk with others you should use the User talk page, i.e. User talk:Ahoerstemeier. Only for that one I would get the notification that I have a new message, while the user page is to present yourself, collect notes etc. andy 16:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bogda Khan

I saw your article on Bogda Khan. Thanks for creating that. I'm not completely sure what the correct title should be, though. "Bogda Khan" seems to be rare outside of Wikipedia; "Bogdo Khan" is a bit more common; "Bogd Khan" seems to be quite common, but most of the references seem to be to a place rather than to the person. Can you give some information on how it is spelled or pronounced in Mongolian?—Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 23:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Let me ask around; I'll try to get the nominative form. Please feel free to change it to Bogdo; we had better include all of the other forms. There may be some muddle in how to deal with Tibetan borrowings, or Romanization sytems for Cyrillic. In neither subject can I muster much expertise.

Well, which do you think best represents the standard pronunciation?—Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 17:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Bogd Kan--the Bogdha Khan pronunciation is only known by someone fairly adept in the old alphabet--a well-educated Mongolian.Nhrenton 17:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I got it taken care of. See: Bogd Khan. Cheers, Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 07:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Romanisation of Mongolian

Nhrenton, I thought you might be interested in the conversation ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Romanisation of Mongolian. We're trying to develop a standard for writing Mongolian on Wikipedia. I hope you can give some input. Cheers, Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 19:40, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Funny, I always thought you were Mongolian (altho', I have to admit, your name doesn't sound Mongolian). You sure seem to know a lot about Mongolia.—Nat Krause^{(Talk!·What have I done?)} 22:22, 20 February 2007 (UTC)