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[edit] Defamation accusations
There have been attempts to charcater assasinate my late father both before he died and now after his passing. I am going to deffend his repuattion and with the help of his collegues will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did do what his backgound claims.
Dam you who are trying to defame a dead man!
[edit] Nutter
found this page doing s search about my grandfather noel gray. the guy writing the page is a nutter , all the james bond stuff and no idea about spelling. jeremy
Who the hell is Jeremy?
Noel Gray has not now nore ever has had a GRADNSON NAMED JERREMY! This is a pathetic attempt to gain standing to edit this page, he knows nothing about Noel Gray and should be exposed as the pretender that he is.
- Gee, I wonder how many people in the world have had the last name Gray? How many people have had the first name Noel? Wow, both names are/were extremely common in English speaking countries. Could it be possible for there to be more than one person that ended up with both of these common names? No, of course not. The only Noel Gray ever to exist is the one who was involved with Telectronics and had a son named Chris who doesn't have a child named Jeremy. What was I thinking?—WAvegetarian•(talk) 22:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
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- After reading this article and discussion and the linking article Telectronics with it's discussion there is a need for some strong housekeeping by those of the Wikipedia organisation with executive powers because to allow continuation of editing by the person (Mr Gray?) who is it seems illiterate and biased and often abusive, who does not register as a user or sign edits or comply with Wikipedia rules is detrimental to the credibility of Wikipedia unless other readers perceive as I do that the person is a "Nutter". I am a Bioengineer with 22 years experience and able to contribute some knowledge about the history of cardiac pacemaking but not if I am going to be ridiculed by nutters. T K. 139.168.31.228 06:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
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As an educated man you must be aware of the laws of defamation and slander. The Wickapedia is beign brought into disrepute by you TK for making this outrageous and unsubstantiated claim about Mr Gray. I suggest that unless you are prepared to offer some evidence about Mr Gray other than your pathetic claims then bugger off and let the history of Telectronics page be writen by people who were there and not rewritten by fuckwitts like you. (unsigned comment added 08.56 20 March 2007 by 203.217.77.137 an IINet user of Coffs Harbour NSW Australia).
[edit] secret mission
Why have you deleted the paras about Noel Grays "Secret mision" in WW2 that is supported by your refernce number 13? This information is in the public domain and the website refrenced says you suplied the information ! Why is this info "out of context" as you said ? Jeremy Gray144.131.12.107 03:29, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
The wording added is an attempt by someone to exagerate the incident in Noel Gray's war-time experiences by using the plural missions, when there was only one secret mission. If you check the edit you will se this. There has been a concerted attempt to discredit Noel Gray here in Australia and claims for his pioneering work in founding Telectronics. If you look at the talk page on the Telectronics page you will see the discussion. This discussion commences with the biased assertion that Noel Gray passed on fantacies about his past to his son and that he is deluded and is attempting to promote them. This is made by someone who knows nothing of Noel Gray before he met him in 1961. There are still alive today people who remeber him and speak very highly of him. So be warned the truth is about and it will in the end be revealed.
Do you mean theres gonna be divine intervention?144.131.12.107 08:07, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Whatever
maybe only one secret mission but wy did you delete the details as its on the public record by your reference 13, if the entry you put on eth dunn site is true. also you say he has patents about printed circuits. i know about printed circuts and a google says they were ivented in 1906 and america released all the details in 1948 so you must have secrets in australia we dont know about jeremy gray60.230.82.36 03:58, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Armey School of Radio Physics Watson Bay
nothing on google about this only there was CSIR research place at Watson bay from 1936 to 1944Jeremy Gray58.166.30.222 06:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
There was an Army school of Radio Physics at Watsons Bay in Sydney The School of RP as it was affectioately known. They even wrote songs about the Shool of RP. You could also call it the Radio Physics Department Section from Noel Gray's Military record.
I ask again who the hell is Jerremy Gray? Google searches are not the whole trulte and nothing but the truth.
Some google truth 4U www.science.org.au/academy/memoirs/bowen.htm#introduction58.166.30.222 04:59, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Noel Gray certianly knew of Dr Bowen and his word at the CSIR Radio Physics Department but I fail to see how this refference dismisses the Army School of Radio Physics which was headed by Colonel John Moore and which instalation trained a group of RADAR specialists for th Army. You are obviously embarking on some sort of agenda designed to dispute this biographical entry and I would strongl advise yo to bugger off! Because you do not know what you are talking about!
The Army School of Radio Physics was a secret operation during the War and the students were taught the secret of the strap magnetron. i doubt that any search of any records will disclose this
How dare you vandalise this page about Noel Gray someone you know nothing about! Desecration of a war veteran just how low are you prepared to go to make your point ?
No one could go loewer than you. No im not related to you but my name is jeremy Gray and i would not want to be realeted to you wanker because people like you that hide identity to libel other people are te loewest form of life on earth....Jeremy58.166.30.222 01:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
So why dont you mind your own business. Theres a good chap Bugger off you did not know Noel Gray or his prior experience so why dont you just get lost ther's a good chap.
[edit] Clean up and POV
As can be seen from the above discussion and also comments through the text such as [1], there is considerable bias around the writing of this article. If it is not cleaned up to meet wikipedia standards of verifiability, I propose it is merged to the Telectronics article. Note Wikipedia is not a site for family history and although Gray almost certainly meets the standards for inclusion (there would be no disagreement that he made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in their specific field), the present article does not conform to the standards set out at Wikipedia:Autobiography not least because the main contributor has apparently been Gray's son and thus in breach of the guideline.--Golden Wattle talk 21:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article needs rewriting
All sources I have now been able to check indicate the article's subject Noel Gray was at least cofounder of the early Australian biotech company Telectronics, so as said by Golden Wattle "meets the standards for inclusion" in Wikipedia but the article in its present form bluntly reads more like an historically based novel. The main contributor "has apparently been Gray's son and thus in breach of the Wikipedia guidlines",see Wikipedia:Autobiography. I apologise to Mr Gray's son for repeating the word 'nutter' in my edit under the section headline "Nutter", this was an emotional reaction to reading the article. An article which could better record the history of Noel Gray's contribution to early biotechnology might best be written by his son, even if that is contravening a rule so he should be encouraged to do that. TK Canberra60.230.177.204 04:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Start by reading the book Telectronics the early years, then read the next book and edit this page and all future refferences to Noel Gray and Telectronics accordingly. mambo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.206.239.116 (talk • contribs) February 2007.
