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[edit] Renaming 1993 Bombay bombings
Two months ago, kingboyk (talk • contribs) moved 1993 Mumbai bombings to 1993 Bombay bombings. Yesterday, Nichalp (talk • contribs) moved the article back to 1993 Mumbai bombings, and I reverted the move. I believe for formality's sake, it should be named Bombay bombings, not Mumbai bombings. Nichalp believes that this name should not be since it is not a formal name.([1]) He showed me some news links using "Mumbai" instead of "Bombay", and I have found many sources using "Bombay" instead of "Mumbai". A comparitive Google match of "Mumbai blasts", "Mumbai bombings" vs. "Bombay blasts", "Bombay bombings" showed that Bombay generated more hits. I'd like some opinions on what the article should be titled. Nishkid64 14:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
- Much as I like/prefer Bombay it is called Mumbai now. Perhaps a check on when the name change occured can help ? If the blasts were before then they can be called Bombay, and if after the name change date -Mumbai. Haphar 15:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- This happened in 1993, when it was called Bombay. See this post: Talk:1993 Bombay bombings#Naming of the event. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mudaliars and Vellalars of Jaffna
There is a misconception here that the british created a new elite who styled themselves as mudaliars or vellalars. After the formation of the Jaffna Kingdom, Vellalar Chiefs and Mudaliars migrated to Jaffna. This is chronicled in the Kailaya Malai and Vaipava Malai. Could somebody clarify the misconception that has been created that the Vellala/Mudaliar domination in Jaffna is a modern phoneomeon. These clans trace themselves to pre-13th century tamil history. Tamil vellalar clans are from distinguished and blue-blooded clans of Tamil Nadu, not a British inspired phenomenon. I don't know which so-called experts come up with this British inspired story.
This is a quote from the Kailaya Malai(written around 17th century about the 13th-14th century migration into Jaffna):
The king after ascending the throne appointed as his Primo Minister, Buvaneka Vaku, a learned Brahman of a high family in Madura, and made him reside at Nallur. He made Pandi Malava of Ponpattiyur, formerly of Venkatagiri, a man of Gengakula a man who had a plough flag, a man of great generosity and liberality, who was fully disposed to feed the poor and rich alike, to reside as Tirunelveli with his brother and brother-in-law. Chempaka Malava. Next came in Narasinga Deva of the Tuluva clan of the Vellala division; a man of Gengakula and a nobleman of worldwide fame. who freely patronised the learn, and used to wear a garland of waterlilies, was a great lover of learning, whose native place was Kaviriyur. He was made to resider at Mayiliddi.
Then came another leading Vellala who had a plough flag whose native place was Valinagar. He had the appearance of cupid; he was well versed in all the three branches of Tamil and his name was Chenpala Mappana. He and a relation of his called Chandrasekar Mappana and another called Kanakaraya. a Vellan Chetty by caste who used to wear a garland of cummin, were made to reside at Tellippalai, a place of great. fertility and of never-failing water-supply and of unique distinction. The next was the Vellala of Kovalur who had a plough flag and a garland of water-lilies, He was a man of great influence, learning and charming appearance, and his name was Perayiraua He was made to reside at Inuvil, a village abounding with sugarcane, plantain and arecanut trees and with paddy fields.
The next was a Vellala of Kachehur, whose hands were liberal as the Kalpa tree. He had a garland of water-lilies, he was a man of great wealth and of handsome appearance. He was of incomparanle valour, and of great devotion to Siva, and his name was Nilakanda. He and his four brother were made to reside at Pachilatpalli. The next was the Vellala of Sikari, a man of great intelligence who had a garland of water-lilies. He was famous for truthfulness, learning, civility, industry and was full of resource. He had a commanding appearance, and his name was Kanaka Malava. He with his four brothers was made to reside at Puloli.
The next was the Vellala of Kupakam. He was as wealthy as Kubera, he had a garland of water-lilies, he was a patron of the learned, he had a plong fiag and his name was Kupakarendra. He and Narangufeva a relation of his, famous for charitable deds, were made to rsside at Tholpuram, a town without an equal. The next was the Vellala of Pullur, an Arjuna in archery a Bhima in warfare, a Karna in liberality, a Dharma in fame and forbearance, whose name, was Devarajendra. He had corwn of gold set with precious stones, He was asked to reside at Koyilakkandi.
The next was the Vellala of the family of him who shed over kamban a shower of gold for the work of Erezhupatu, whose country was Tondainade, who had a widespread name, who used to wear a lotus garland and whose name was Maanadukanda Mudali. He was made to reside at Irupalai. The next was the Vellala of Seyur, who was as wealthy as Indra, and who never deviated from the path of visture. whose garland was of water lilies. Whose fame was great and whose paternal and maternal lines were matchless and pure and whose name was Taninayaga. He was made a ehief of Neduntiva. The next was the Vellala of Vanchi, whose name was pallava. He with two other chiefs, was placed at Velinadu.
The kind having appinted these, thought of appinting headmen and other servants and accordingly appointed Valliamatakan, a man of great valour and power, to be the headman of the Western division; Imaiyana to be the headman of the Northern division; Chenpaka Matakan, a powerful man whose name was known even as far as the Himalayas, to be the headman of the Eastern division; Vetti Matakan, a man of great power, to be the headman of the Southern division; Virasingan who fought several battles and an experienced soldier, to be the commander-in-chief of his army. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.151.177.106 (talk) 12:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] World Heritage template
Hi! I created a template for World Heritage Sites: {{Infobox World Heritage Site}}. Since many protected areas tend to overlap with World Heritage-designated places, will it be possible to re-format the template in the same way as the Level 1, 2, 3... style? In that way, we can prevent too many infoboxes showing repetitive infos. In terms of its relationship with the IUCN protected areas, I found a link: http://whc.unesco.org/cairns/iucn-priorities.pdf (refer to page 15 of this publication/page 17 of the pdf file). Hope you can help in improving the template and making it more relevant to readers. Thanks. Joey80 13:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Passing on the request from my talk page to more knowledgeable in wiki software etc. Atulsnischal 13:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Request for comment on Wikiportal content.
I have a request for comment on Wikiportal from you all. Please refer query on Wikiportal talk page and respond.
Thanks Arunram 23:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Indian political pictures
What's the consensus over pictures of Indian political ministers, like this found here, an official Indian parliamentary site? I would have thought Template:India-politician-photo covers it, am I correct?
See Category:Official_photographs_of_Indian_politicians for more examples. Ekantik talk 17:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Indian government website pictures are copyrighted. They fail our fair-use criteria and cannot be used here. Please read Wikipedia:Fair_use#Policy point #1 and Wikipedia:Fair_use#Counterexamples point #8. The ones in Category:Official_photographs_of_Indian_politicians will have to be removed too unless the person is not alive. We need to find copyright-free images for politicians elsewhere. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 19:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Thanks. I know that images of living people may not qualify as I have previous experience with uploading images of living people, but I would have thought that an Indian politician photo template would have covered images found at Indian governmental websites as fair use. It just seems a sad waste of effort the way I ran around finding an "official" image and then hunting down a template because Wikipedia policy hates living people. Rather disappointed but hey, what can you do? Ekantik talk 03:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Categories Requiring Diffusion
Hello! I just wanted to notify everbody here that there are a number of India-related categories tagged for diffusion. They are:
- Category:Ethnic groups in India
- Category:Geography of India
- Category:Indian people
- Category:Karnataka
- Category:Kerala
- Category:Maharashtra
- Category:Social groups of India
Keep up the good work! --Hemlock Martinis 01:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] No "Indian Television" Section?
I was wondering why there is no "Indian Television" department under the "Arts and Entertainment" section in the Project Organisation. I beleive Indian Television plays a serious part in scope of "India" just as well as the Cinema and Literature deparments. So is another deparment going to be added soon or does this WikiProject need to be discussed about it first? Because I am not quite keen in expanding any of the other deparments that are avaliable to expand at the moment. Thank You. --Bhavesh Chauhan 01:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
- To start a new workgroup there should be a number of interested people, a clear outline and goal. =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] India National Cricket Team article
Hello everybody,
I am more or less a newbie here. This is regarding the article "Indian national cricket team". I feel that the name is wrong and it should be changed to "Team India". I have started a discussion about this here, but not many are participating yet. Please see the discussion and comment. Thank you. Partha 03:37, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article review/Tamil language
I've nominated Tamil language for featured article review. Please leave comments or improve the article directly if possible. Grandmasterka 01:53, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Tamil language has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
This article has gone under a very calculated vandalism. The article’s primary monitors are not highly active at this moment. The statements are being manipulated to degrade the quality of this article. I urge those with good spirit to compare the actual FA article, and the current status and revert the vandalism as much as possible.
I can assure that the quality of the article was much better before. But, now it be being down graded little by little. Particularly, the into and history sections have been badly degraded.
--Natkeeran 06:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Konkani Wikipedia
Sorry, I forgot to give the link the last time.
--Deepak D'Souza 04:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
