Talk:Oakland Coliseum Amtrak/BART Station

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[edit] Transit agency name usage

From an anonymous contributor: I'm not going to bother to start a revert war with Will74205, but I do hope that others will gradually reintroduce the corrections that I had made. In some cases it's a matter of correct English grammar and in other cases, of usage conventions demonstrated in a transit agency's public materials.

In a sentence beginning "The Amtrak Capitol Corridor's Oakland Coliseum Station...", the article is necessary. (Compare "Amtrak's Philadelphia - 30th Street Station...", where it is incorrect to use the article.) The names "Amtrak" and "Amtrak Capitol Corridor" have different values.

In a sentence beginning "The AirBART shuttle bus and AC Transit bus routes 50 and 805 all run between...", the initial article is necessary. Omitting a definite or indefinite article here is an obvious grammatical error.

With respect to BART (but not necessarily other transit agencies), this possessive construction is common: "BART's <noun>", but this one is never used: "Bay Area Rapid Transit's <noun>". The second construction should be "The Bay Area Rapid Transit District's <noun>". The names "BART" and "Bay Area Rapid Transit" have different values.

And so on...

[edit] New Stub Cleanup

If someone could clean up some of the grammar here I would highly appreciate it, I have to admit I have poor copyediting skills --JVittes 04:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Everything looks good now, should we merge the articles? --Will74205 20:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I was gone on vacation, go ahead have the articles all merged, by redirecting the other two to here, and I'll try to find places to direct link from, as in the BART, the 3 BART line articles, and Capitol Corridor, also Oakland International Airport, and airBART, if any others are found go ahead and direct link. --JVittes 22:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I made an svg map of the general area to make a sample map here [1], the original SVG file is here [2]. Suggestions as to what to do would be appreciated; Will74205 if you wish to edit the SVG map to make a map please go ahead and do so, note that since it still has the layer from google maps as reference it cannot be copied to wikipedia, so I have not done so, but the a png file that does not show it can be. --JVittes 20:36, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The maps are very impressive!!!!! You should upload the maps yourself, either just to the English Wiki or the Commons. I don't want to take credit from you. What software you used to create/edit these maps? I am not that familiar with graphic editing so you might do a better job, but I would include the Amtrak parking lot and perhaps enlarge the Amtrak platform a little bit. --Will74205 04:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

All I do is make screenshots of the area I want from the map view or hybrid view of the google map version I made http://www.stanford.edu/~jvittes/bayareatransit4.html, once I have the screenshot I want I use Inkscape, I load in the screenshot, then start drawing on top of it. Inkscape is very awesome, available for free at http://www.inkscape.org/, I started using it because that's what the SVG files for the Caltrain and BART pages were made with. It is surprisingly easy to use, I started with wanting to make a map for the ACE commuter train service, I put that one here, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:ACE_map_plain.svg, they are easily editable. Png file is now at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Oakland_Coliseum.png, SVG file at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Oakland_Coliseum_plain.svg. Try using Inkscape to edit the SVG files, I think you'll find it quite a useful tool. --JVittes 05:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)