Talk:Ogaden

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[edit] Ahmad Gragn

The article about Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (Ahmad Gragn or Ahmad Gurey) says he was from Zeila and does not mention Ogaden at all. (Also, the Akisho, Gadabuursi, and Leelkase articles each claim he was from those respective Somali clans). -- Gyrofrog (talk) 21:28, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ogaden?

Why is "Ogaden" spelled "Ogadēn" in this article? There has been no discussion on this talk page about this style? Is there a good reason to replace the more common English form with this variant that apparently reflects local pronounciation? -- llywrch 04:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't know. Sesel changed it back in May without an edit summary. - Banyan Tree 13:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering about this too, because I've seen a number of maps where the name is spelled "Ogadēn". This one is from the World Factbook and uses the "ē" spelling (though it is hard to discern). I have another map at home with this spelling. If this is the correct spelling then perhaps a page move is warranted (easy enough to do, but thought I'd bring it up first). Also I'm not sure if the same spelling issue applies to Ogaden people. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm admit to a bias of avoiding accents, diacritics & other fancy add-ons to letters in names, unless this usage can be shown to be fairly common. This is because I've struggled thru more than my share of scholarly works pedantic correctness has unnecessarily kept me from recognizing the familiar names of people & places. Would anyone take issue if we just moved this back to "Ogaden" & added a note in the introduction about its proper pronounciation? -- llywrch 21:00, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Nope. A tweak for readibility with a note about the technically proper pronunciation sounds just about right. Cheers, Banyan Tree 22:01, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

No objection. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:58, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've gone ahead & changed it -- & I'm guessing at the pronounciation, so if someone knows it better please fix. I also changed the spelling of some of the towns listed in the article to agree with other links. -- llywrch 17:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History before Europeans

Would somebody like to fill in what the history of the region was before the British Colonial office starting writing its version? I apologize for my assumption that it was either part of the ottoman or egyptian empire and that these empires probably collected tribute as the extent of their control. Glad I was corrected but would like to see more.