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Contents 1 European History 2 Name of the group 3 CONSTANT ABUSIVE EDITS 4 Most popular? 5 Football??? 6 Olympiacos FC and Olympiacos CFP 7 Name Transliteration

[edit] European History

A defeat by 4 goals is by no means "one of the biggest", it actually happens pretty often. It's hardly even notable, since in every CL season there is a two digit number of such victories. I thus deleted the following: but also managed one of the biggest victories in Champions League, a 6-2 victory against the finalists of the previous year

This is not a sportsforum to defend your favorite teams' performance, i'd rather see less subjectivity in reporting of results.

[edit] Name of the group

• Olympiakos or Olympiacos? - Stoph 17:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

olympiakos in german; olympiacos in english. :)

I think C is the correct spelling. The official website uses it. - Stoph 22:03, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Olympiakos is the name of the club...--62.1.224.5 17:11, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

It used to be Olympiakos but last year the name changed to Olympiacos. So from now on its with C. Powerade 17:10, 21 January 2006 (GMT+2)

Olympiacos has been the technically correct spelling for quite a few years now, used in Olympiacos' and UEFA's official websites and anything official for that matter, including tickets for international matches. It also has been recently imprinted in the Georgios Karaiskakis stadium.

Despite it being the official spelling though, it doesn't sit very well to fan's eyes and I'd expect third parties to continue using the "greeklish" Olympiakos spelling indefinitely.--Magrippinho 05:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The Greeks use k because their is no cc in the Greek alphabet. So I think the correct translation in with a c

Olympiacos official site It's a "c" --Michalis Famelis 11:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Its Olympiakos,trust me,Im even offended when you say Olympiacos,its like I say Khelsea for Chelsea - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dzoni (talk • contribs).

I agree the fans don't like Olympiacos and prefer Olympiakos (for some strange reason they consider it more "manly"), but this is a decision of the club itself (see www.olympiacos.org). Nobody forced the club to change its name, but they did, probably for marketing purposes. --Avg 13:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I just saw it,still its pretty strange,because I went to Real Madrid game with Gate 7 and I brought an original Djordjevic shirt few months ago and its saying Olimpiakos,but I just saw that they really changed it,so what can you do,but still its pretty dumb,like Chelsea changin it to khelsea or Charlton to Kharton,it makes no sense,because we are ortodox and we should not change club names just to make it more in the spirit of foreign language.

Its would be like if we changed the name of Crvena Zvezda to Red Star or Stell Rossa,just because its suits other languages.Or if called it FC Crvena Zvezda instead of FK(becasue we dont say club,we say klub).

Anyways,if Olympiaki board really did it,so be it,but I doubt it will live in Greece or in any ortodoh country,for that matterDzoni 18:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Now that its changed to Olmypiacos, is it still pronounced Olmypiakos or is it now pronounced Olympiasos? Philc _T+C19:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The pronounciation is exactly the same (with a "k"). There is a rule in almost every western language that "c" before "o" is always a "k". When it is pronounced as "s", the French and Spanish put a small s under the c (ç). In fact this is exactly why the name was changed. It supposedly registers better to Western eyes.--Avg 00:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Funny that, it seems there is just as little ambiguity with a k to me, I mean, I dont think anyone ever mispronounced it before in a way that chenging the k to a c would help prevent. ahwell, their decision. Philc _T+C 10:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

They are acting dumb,becoase if you are Ortodox,then you shouldn`t pay attention to how Catholics or other look at your name,plus as Philc said,no one mispronounced it wrong,so they are just being stupid with this oneDzoni 16:13, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CONSTANT ABUSIVE EDITS

Everyday a new idiot mucks up the page with badly formulated insults. Is there no way this page can be protected from people editing it who are not registered or can we just close the page to all edit except a select few.Reaper7 21:43, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect, the vandalism here is infrequent and light. You could try requesting semi-protection for the page, but I would put long odds on that happening. As for editing being allowed by "a select few", this is a Wiki, so that's not going to happen! --Pak21 07:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

With all due respect what you said is called a lie. The vandalism on this page is constant. I suggest you look at the history. Reaper7 12:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Ummm.... WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF, WP:NPA and various other policies. If you look through my contributions, you'll note that I have removed some of the vandalism from this page. In comparision to many pages on Wikipedia, what is experienced here is light: pages which are given semi-protection typically get 3 or 4 vandalism incidents a day. You are more than welcome to go and request semi-protection; all I'm saying is that I don't think it will happen. --Pak21 13:17, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

"Olympiacos CFP is the gayest popular and one of the largest multisport clubs in Greece."

what the hell is with this kind of vandalism?

[edit] Most popular?

How come is the most popular? This needs referense. I don't remember any elections for this matter. Most of the polls, show that Panathinaikos and Olympiakos have more or less equal number of supporters.

The same (most popular??) applies to the characterization of basketball, volleyball, waterpolo and football (meaning soccer) as the four most popular sports. This is wrong. What about american football, baseball, or even [Badminton] ? citation needed, don't think u will find any!

Yes, it is the most popular based on every poll research made in Greece. Give the example of one poll that says Olympiakos and Panathinaikos have equal number of supporters. Also Olympiakos has the most sold tickets every year the last 20 years. Do u want to paste here all the sold tickets' lists of the past decades?

Yes, they are the most popular bitch because they're the best.

Maria (unregistered user) 26 Feb 2007: Although I do support the club, I also have issues with characterisations such as "most popular". This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, a scientific tool that we try to keep neutral. It does not honour anybody to have lines, like the one I've just deleted, cursing people in Greek, and it certainly doesn't help the club. Given the standards of Wikipedia, reading comments such as "most popular", without any reference on the measure of popularity used in this phrase or any reference to it, simply makes a third party dismiss the rest of the article too, for being too influenced by personal views.

[edit] Football???

Please remember you are writing for a worldwide audience and disambiguate whaich of the many varieties of Football they play. I would like to see them take on the Chicago Bears. Maybe do half a game of each mode of football. Note that the article on the Chicago Bears says they play American football while the article on Manchester United F.C. says they play English football. Edison 18:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The worldwide audience is clever enough to understand what football in Europe means.

This was meant to be an encyclopedian article, not a gossip one. There is no need to comment every european game or the last goal curse...

Edison, American, Canadian, Gaelic and Australian Rules football, though interesting in their own right, are just that... local sports which do not amount to anything more than a curiosity to a worldwide audience. Yes, we know... the term football is not the property of one particular code, but when a worldwide audience sees the word "football", they think of the world game. BTW, The Manchester United article does not say that the team plays English Football - it says they are an English (from England) club that plays Football. Dragases 11:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Olympiacos FC and Olympiacos CFP

This article needs to be broken up into two - Olympiacos FC (the football club) and Olympiacos CFP (the sports club). Dragases 08:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name Transliteration

This is English Language Wikipedia, Sthenel. Will you please stop deleting the Greek transliteration of the name (Olympiacos Syndesmos Filathlon Peiraios)? - English speakers (ie. those that are not familiar with the Greek alphabet) will stumble through trying to pronounce Ολυμπιακός Σύνδεσμος Φιλάθλων Πειραιώς...

Like most other Greek football club articles, it makes more sense to write the Greek transliteration of the full club name rather than the Greek language name in the infobox. Also, like most other articles, it makes more sense to have the club name in the Greek Language in the opening paragraph as a introduction. Dragases 08:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

In the opening paragraph there is the greek name and the name in "Greeklish" relatively. In the infobox there must be the greek name (because this is the official name of the club-it's a greek club) and we can put the translation in English, as I already did. - Sthenel 12:33, 14 March 2007 (UTC)