Talk:Operation Astute

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Contents 1 Event page 2 Merge with 2006 East Timor crisis 2.1 Where to vote 3 Merge with Timeline of Operation Astute 4 Philippines 5 Portugal 6 Malaysia 7 current event 8 commander

[edit] Event page

Shouldn't there be an event on the actual unrest as well as the Australian deployment? Battle Ape 03:47, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

There is, it's really good and I just linked it in: 2006 East Timor crisis - Tale 07:02, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

... aaaand someone just removed/changed my links. I'm going to add it again as a related link - surely it belongs there? Tale 07:14, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with 2006 East Timor crisis

Disagree - this entry should evolve over time to cover the military aspects of the crisis and will be of lasting value. --Nick Dowling 07:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Disagree - The intricate details of the military operation and the units involved are only going to grow. They are already too big for the event page. The event and the military operation are two distinct subjects. Tale 07:39, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Disagree - this article will continue to grow in the coming days and weeks, and may itself have to be split into seperate articles. Justinbrett 13:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Where to vote

Hey guys, since 2006 East Timor crisis is the main page, let's vote there instead. It's easier count the votes when it's casted in one place. You know, keeping it centralized and all. __earth ^(Talk) 13:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Timeline of Operation Astute

Agree - common sense to have the timeline within the operation article. Tale 15:43, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philippines

There may be some Philippine involvement, a PAF C130 landed in Darwin this afternoon bound for Dili - keep your eyes out. If it is just to evacuate citizens, should they be included in this article because that probably wouldn't be considered part of this operation. Justinbrett 10:56, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't think so, unless AFP representatives say that they are officially part of the operation. They went there just to evacuate Philippine nationals. 70.68.46.180 00:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I saw a news story which stated that Philippino C-130 aircraft were flying humanitarian supplies into East Timor. I haven't read anything else on the extent of The Philippines involvement in the operation. --Nick Dowling 00:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

PAF C-130s are there to get our nationals home. They're not involved in Operation Astute. 70.68.46.180 22:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portugal

Are the Portuguese part of this operation at all? I was under the impression that they are operating entirely separately and answer directly to the Portuguese diplomatic mission in Dili.--cj | talk 07:56, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

While the Portugese force isn't under Australian command, it is aparently operating in cooperation with the Australian-led force. I've added a couple of sentances to clarify this. --Nick Dowling 12:15, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The command of the international military force and the (military) police force is not the same. In the case of the police force (military or paramilitary police), having as source many news articles [1][2][3], which quote Ramos Hortas and the Captain of the Portuguese force, there will not be an only command, but a coordination structure between the Malayan (200 agents), Portuguese (120 agents) and Australian (70 agents) police forces in East Timor. The Portuguese force (GNR) will be commanded by Captain Gonçalo Carvalho, and will report directly to President Xanana Gusmão, and in which another office of the Republican National Guard will act as a link between the Malayan and Australian commanders. Best regards, Get_It 18:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Should have been Malaysia. Malaya had ceased to exist since 1963. Don't worry. Common mistakes among non-Malaysians to assume Malaysia's name is Malaya.Amlisk

OK, thanks for that clarification. --Nick Dowling 23:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Malaysia

I had added elements of 4th Mechanised Brigade based on some photos that I had viewed. It is believed that some element from 19 Royal Malay Regiment are also sent to Timor Leste. However, it is said only their support APC are sent in. Note: 19 RMR was the same unit involved in the rescue of TFR in Somalia. A local daily Utusan Malaysia had also reported that TL Foreign Minister, Ramos Horta had announced his government's intention to request to the UN Sec Council to form a full-fledged peacekeeping force in TL with Malaysia leading the mission. The announcement was made above KD Mahawangsa during an official function organised by Malaysian forces. Until I received similar information from international news bulletin, I will leave this information in the discussion. Not that I don't trust the local news, but when it comes to news regarding to the military, they are extremely prone to misreporting. - Amlisk

The presence of 19th Royal Malay have been confirmed with an interview with one of members of the battalion in Dili. The member is a veteran of Battle of Mogadishu. - Amlisk

[edit] current event

i dont believe this should still be concidered a current eventEevo 20:12, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] commander

the 1st paragraph states that Mick Slater is heading the mission. isnt Mal Rerden now the current commander?

Well spotted. I've just fixed this. --Nick Dowling 22:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)