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Although the article starts by listing 6 missions, number 5 is described as the last one. Anyone know what happened to Black Buck 6? Was it planned but never carrried out? Rowland White in Vulcan 607 states there were only 5 missions, but the Thunder and Lightning website cites Black Buck 6 as the one that ended up in Rio, and then talks about a 7th raid --Jeffjn 09:50, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Anyone know of the Black Buck mission which was "forced" to land in Brazil and sequestered for the rest of the war? --Dali-Llama 17:44, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

You can find the answer at the external link at the bottom of the page. DJ Clayworth 16:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed a section about the withdrawl of the Mirage foces not being due to Black Buck. We have cites to say that Black Buck was the reason, and while this cite is an RAF site and so probably not unbiased we don't have another cite to the contrary. When we have a cite the passage can go back. DJ Clayworth 16:26, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

When I added that sentence I add the Reference too, now we have only the reference :) The official version of the argentine FAA (I think the FAA could make a better official version than the RAF's site) said that the lack of aerial refuel capability of the Mirage IIIEA prevent them to used them over the islands, a fact demonstrate it in the only engage of May 1st where the only MIII survivor try to land at Stanley, contrary of the Daggers which have more internal fuel capability. -- Jor70 13:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)


My reading of the Google translation of the FAA page is that the decison not to use Mirage III had been made before the conflict; this is contra-indicated by their use on 1 May. Until/Unless historians get access to all FAA papers from the time the question is unlikely to be settled decisively. I think it is fair to say that the Black Buck raids are widely believed to have been a factor in the withdrawal of the Mirage IIIs; there are numerous books, not all RAF published, which make the claim.
(anonymous) dont sure which FAA page you are refering but if is this one [1] its said: En el Estado Mayor de la FAS, ya se había descartado la posibilidad de disputar la superioridad aérea a baja altura, sobre las islas, enfrentando a los aviones Harrier con los Mirage. the key word there is low altitude due as it later said a fuel factor. The MIIIEA would be still used as decoy aircraft until the last day (further reading at the FAA site) Jor70 16:11, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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