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2. Neptun was the German counterattack by German ground forces against Soviet units near the Black Sea at Myschanko-Berg on 6 April 1943. Part of the Battle of Stalingrad.

First of all, the Battle of Stalingrad was over by April 1943. Second, there was a Soviet operation "Neptune," which I plan to add to this page in a moment, which suggests the above text might have been a mistake (but not a mis-correction; it was originally added just like that, modulo misspelling "Stalingrad"). Third, as far as I can tell, there is no "Myschanko-Berg."

However, I think I've found the original source: [1]

Neptun                 D       06.04.43    Gegenoffensive am Schwarzen Meer beim Myschanko-Berg
Neptun                 D       1944        Anti-Partisanen-Aktionen auf der Sporaden-Inseln vor (später Koralle genannt)

Someone who knows German want to translate? --Quuxplusone 16:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I may (or may not have made the OP on Neptun, but my records show ...

NEPTUN “NEPTUNE” (GER 43) Counterattack by German ground forces against Soviet units near the Black Sea at Myschanko-Berg on 6 April, 1943.

Perhaps I messed it up in retyping it in this format. Perhaps someone else mis-corrected it. In any case, here is the real deal. Paul, in Saudi 17:25, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Navies at Normandy

First, apologies for seeming to be an over-sensitive Brit.

Second, in no way do I wish to minimise the courage and suffering of US forces in Europe. The actions at Omaha beach, St Lo, Bastogne, Eindhoven & Nijmegen, and elsewhere were outstandingly brave and determined. Particularly so on foreign ground.

Phew.

BUT (here goes), there is sensitivity in Europe, and not just in France, about the Second World War in Europe being given an all-American gloss (usually by Hollywood - John Wayne did it all?). So, although US troops and aircraft were desparately needed to bolster the failing British manpower reserves, at Normandy it was actually the Royal Navy (British, not English, please note) that took the lead in providing naval support. To list the relatively few US ships (I'm sure there were more than these) that were involved without a similar reference to other nations, apart from the "English" navy, rubs some of us up the wrong way. It also overlooks contributions from the Free French and Norwegian navies, and probably others.

I won't delete the list of US ships - that would be disrespectful, I may add to it. And I do know that the US Navy's focus was in the Pacific.

I hope that I've not caused offence, but I do feel lots better for that rant. Folks at 137 23:04, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tanaside/ Tantaside

Was USS TANASIDE not in fact HMS TANASIDE a hunter class escort destroyer launched from Yarrow dockyards in April 1942. She was deployed for antisubmarine and antiaircraft duties

The name Tanaside was taken from a USN report; it may have been a typo. Checking. BTW, queries should be on talk page not main article. Folks at 137 15:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Found this site [2]. Ship appears to be HMS Tanatside, although Tanaside/ Tantaside spellings are also extant. The operational detail seems to confirm the info. Folks at 137 21:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kriegsmarine fuel shortages

Re: recent query about this assertion. Try [3], third footnote (already quoted as a reference). There may be other sources. Folks at 137 22:54, 16 July 2006 (UTC)