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User talk:Orionus

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Hello, Orionus, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 14:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Polish medieval monarchs naming

Hi. I have proposed to move the following monarchs from their current, generally Polish-spelled names (with diacriticals) to the systematical English name, citing my general ground that English should be used, not Polish. Would you share your opinion at Talk:Bolesław I the Brave , Talk:Bolesław II the Bold, Talk:Mieszko II Lambert, Talk:Władysław III Spindleshanks, Talk:Jan I Olbracht and Talk:Kazimierz III the Great. Marrtel 19:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit counts

Hi Orionus, and thank you for your participation in the Polish monarch polls. In terms of getting your votes to be properly counted, another thing that you can do is to add some more information to your userpage. Or, since you mentioned that you participate in other wikis, at least edit your userpage here on the English wiki, to provide a link to your user page at your "home" wiki, and that will probably help increase your status here. :) I would also recommend adding information to show what your native language is, and which other languages that you are able to speak. Hope that helps! --Elonka 05:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Jogaila

Hi there. Despite a whopping victory for the name Jogaila on the previous vote, the Polish users have got upset and called yet another vote. They want to get it moved back to the old unpopular name Władysław II Jagiełło. If you are interested in stopping this, you'll need to cast your vote again. Sorry for all this tediousness. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 03:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Can I just say that I agree with your sentiment. While I think Jogaila is the best and most neutral name, the reality of the wikipedia world is that a strong minority consisting mainly of Polish users opposes it, and will seek to reverse it. The only way to get a stable page is to find a name that is not totally unacceptable to either side. Perhaps in a week or so - after the current poll at least - new names can be suggested and tested out with both sides. The usual disadvantage is long-windedness. But hopefully desire to restore mutual understanding and a stable page can overcome this. Regards, Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 13:24, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disruption

Dear Orionus, if you continue your wide-scale campaign at lithuanizing Russian history, you may be blocked for disruption, as User:AndriyK once was. As a sidenote, when adapting the EB1911 article about the guy for this project, I chose to place it at Algirdas, rather than Olgierd, which was its legitimate Britannica name. --Ghirla -трёп- 10:59, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Polish spellings shouldn't be mentioned when talking about this guy at all. The article about him says: "A neat division of their dominions is illustrated by the fact, that Algirdas appears allmost only in East Slavic sources, whereas the Western chronicles are aware of Kęstutis only". Indeed, 14th-century Polish sources were hardly aware that Algirdas existed. They learned about him from Russian/Ruthenian chronicles, where he is named as Olgerd/Olgierd. If you look closely, you will see that his whole family was Russian/Ruthenian. He was as much Lithuanian as Russian/Ruthenian. --Ghirla -трёп- 11:17, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, family of Algirdas was Russian? I thougt Gediminas, his father was Lithuanian... If you have nothing against, lets move this discussion to Algirdas discussion page [1]. Orionus 11:28, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mykolas Biržiška

No need to remove "bajoras" (szlachzycz) form Biržiška's family. They were noble, and it is a proof for Poles, that Lithuanians were not only peasants, as some people try to portray things.--Lokyz 12:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

But szlachczic="Szlachta" by definition is "the noble class in Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania". Biržiška was born in Viekšniai in 1882 - thus I think this definition is not applicable to Mykolas Biržiška? May be he was noble, but not szlachczic? Orionus 13:15, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
He was descendant from noble GDL family, gained COA at Horodle union. If Poles use szlachta, why shouldn't Lithuanians? And a noble without an origin - sounds suspicious:)
Well, again, just a thought.--Lokyz 13:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
As far as I know, you are historian. If you will return "szlachczic", I will not revert it back:). But as for me, I want to leave it in the present state... Orionus 14:51, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Continued fractions

Hi, Orionus.

Today you added a Category:Mathematical series tag to this article. I removed the tag, because a continued fraction is not a sum, or series. A continued fraction can be converted into a sum, or series, but that doesn't mean that it is a sum.

I'm curious, though, why you made this categorization. Can you please explain? Thanks!  ;^> DavidCBryant 13:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I am not mathematician, David, thus I can be mistaken, calling continuos fractions as series. I thought about "product series" or geometric progression of the type \prod_{i=1}^{\infty}a_i as an analogy of continuous divisions ("series") in the continuos fraction. It seems to me that must be some more general category, including infinite "series" of sumation, multiplication and divisions? Orionus 14:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, I think I understand. I guess you're from Lithuania? Maybe Linas can explain it better than I can. Anyway, the English word "series" has a special meaning to mathematicians. It always means "addition and subtraction". So a + b - c is a series, but a × b × c is not a series.
The suggestion that any process continued ad infinitum ought to be grouped with all other such processes is a good suggestion. I'm not sure that such a category exists on Wikipedia right now, though. I think Category:Mathematical series and Category:Continued fractions are entirely disjoint. I can't even find a category for infinite continued products (like the one you wrote above) in the List of mathematics categories ... infinite products are pretty common in mathematics, but most mathematicians (like me!) tend to think like this: Logarithm of product = sum of logarithms(terms), so a product works just like a sum. That explanation doesn't work all the time, of course, but it works often enough to be a commonplace notion.
I'll study that list more closely, and see if I can think of a solution that will make us both happy. Have a great day! DavidCBryant 15:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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