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[edit] Bush v outback
There has obviously been some disagreement over the meaning of "bush" compared to "outback". I grew up outside the capital cities (specifically Morisset), and to me the two words have a distinct meaning. The bush was the stuff outside my front door, and similar environments (mainly eucalyptus forest). The outback, to me, is the remote, arid interior -- especially the desert but perhaps also the dry plains. -- Tim Starling 03:06, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
- Okay... So should both be described in the same article, or would it be better to have separate articles for each? At the moment, everything just redirects here, which gives the impression that they are the same thing. -- Oliver P. 03:09, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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- IMHO "bush" is wiktionary material. It's an ill-defined, colloquial word, with no special siginficance (at least not to me). "Outback" is poorly defined as well, but it has a great deal of cultural significance. Perhaps "bush" is significant to some Australians, but to me it doesn't deserve an article. -- Tim Starling 13:49, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
I agree with Mr Starling. This 'outback' page redirects from 'bush'. In 50 years in Australia I've never heard these two words used interchangeably. PW
- From what I've grown up with Bush is used in preferrance to Outback Gnangarra 16:44, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Back of where?
Back o'Burke, or Back o'Bourke? I always thought it was the latter, referring to Bourke, New South Wales. The article induicates otherwise... ???? Graham 04:01, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
- Perhaps it refers to Robert O'Hara Burke of Burke and Wills fame? I'd say you're right though: it would seem to make sense if it were Bourke, the article for which does lay claim to the phrase. I'm not sure, but.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:41, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Help!
Can anybody help? Just moved the top line to a new Outback (disambiguation) article, but have forgotten how to work the articles/etc to get outback disambig as the first ref, with outback article as part of it. I once tried something with an obscure Tasmanian mountain, and found I was doing no-no things! SatuSuro 13:19, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think I've fixed what you were trying to do. Wikipedia:Disambiguation should help you out next time. --cj | talk 13:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Deaths Focus
I made a small adjustment to the wording on the tourism section. There appears to be potential for this be expanded into a more detailed section. With statistics I think can think of a couple of deaths in WA inside the last 12months, also one recent amazing rescue of an English gentleman near Broome. Gnangarra 00:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] RFDS
Also shouldn't the Royal Flying Doctor Service get at least a mention within this article Gnangarra 00:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Outback
Perhaps there's no real answer, but I wonder where the word "outback" comes from, when it dates from. I've always thought that it was a deadpan joke reference to a person's back yard, or garden, the humour coming from the fact that the real outback is incomparably vaster than anyone's back garden. In the kind of terraced houses my parents grew up in, it's common to talk about the small garden area around the back - with just enough space for a washing line and a shed - as being "out back". Lupine Proletariat 15:12, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Population
I took this para out of the Population section. Firstly, it is very vague, it doesn't mention the name or dates of these supposed programs. Secondly, it seems to be reinforcing the myth that most aboriginal australians traditionally lived in the outback. They didn't, 90% lived in coastal regions.
- There have been various attempts at creating settlements for Australian Aboriginals to live traditionally, with varied success. Often after becoming used to European influences and generational changes it is difficult for Aboriginals to live this kind of lifestyle.
Ashmoo 06:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tourism
I added:
- Various towns claim to be home to the Black Stump, traditionally you aren't in The Outback until you've travelled beyond the Black Stump.
AFAIK there is one in Blackall (according to the article), and one in/near both Bourke and Broken Hill. --Garrie 02:59, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Population seems to be more about culture
I don't know if the section needs to be split into Population (which would be 1 line) and Culture, or just renamed? As it is, there's not much about population in the section at all.--Garrie 03:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] No cropping in Northern Australia
WTF? The article states that there is no cropping in northern Australia. Is this some sort of joke? Unless someone can provide arefernce for this claim it gets delted. I'm sure I didn't imaging all that land under crops in the Qld. Central highlands or the Ord and VRD catchments. I really have no idea hwt the author menat by this comment. They say that the region recieves good rinfall so they can't be refrring to "the outback" strictly.
[edit] Broome, Kakadu and Monkey Mia=
As outback locations? How does a coastal location qualify as outback? I have never yet heard anyone use the term to refer to a coastal location. By defintion the outback is inland. Granted in the north the line often drifts closer to the coast, so parts of the Kimberly and even Charters Towers are occasionally referred to as outback, but never coastal towns. And Kakadu is Top End. Definitely not outback.
- Eastcoast it refers to inland areas, but for west coast the term get loosely applied to all areas outside the wheatbelt (Geraldton --> Wubin --> Southern Cross --> Esperance). Gnangarra 23:44, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Changed the opening
... because i didn't think 'Interior and north' was particularly clear in the first sentence. best, Petesmiles 05:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
