Talk:Piasecki H-25/HUP
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[edit] Explanation for current name
Boy, this one was a doozie! I found TWO articles today on the H-25/HUP: once called Piasecki HUP Retriever, and the otehr called HUP Retriever. Both were moves from other pages, maybe more than once. Both had merge tags to H-25, a redirect page which has never had an article; to top it off, both tages were added by the same person!! This is why WIkipedia advises doing a search for a specific name before creating a new article.
By checking the History, I discovered that the HUP Retriever article was older, and so I moved the info from the other page to this one. There's not much to merge, but there are 2 specs, and with all the rest involved here, I haven't had a chance to check out which is accurate, or uses the right template. My guess after what I've seen today is that neither one will be right.
Now, on to the Renaming: So, what to do when there are conflicting names and standards for an aircraft? Make one up, of course, which is what appears to have been done for both articles already!
No!!! Check Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft):
- US military aircraft: Number and name. F-15 Eagle, P-47 Thunderbolt. Where there is no name, or where the name is not in general use, use the manufacturer and number instead: Lockheed U-2, Convair B-36, General Dynamics F-111. Where there are many names, none of them clearly the most common, use manufacturer and number: Curtiss P-40, Douglas DC-3.
Very clear, only, not so clear with this aircraft. (What a surprise, huh?) It has boht a Navy/MC designation (HUP Retriever) and an Amry designation (H-25 Army Mule). The usual practice is to defer to the older and/or better-known name, which in this casse in the Navy one. But, in 1962, the Navy/MC aircraft were redesignated according to the Tri-Service system as UH-25s. Usually tri-service designations are given precedent, so Piasecki H-25 would be the preferred name, as both aircraft had different popular names. But of course, that page is a redirect, can't move it there; same with Piasecki HUP.
Rather that waiting out the whole Move request/delete/rename process, I split the difference, and went with Piasecki H-25/HUP. A little unorthodox, but the best solution available at the time.
I'm only intending this name as a temporary solution. If someone feels there is a better name available, let's discuss it, and see what we can come up with. As that choice is most likely a redirct page, we'll have to get a consesnus first, then find an administratior to move it. Oh well; such is life on Wikipedia! - BillCJ 18:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
