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Pittsburgh universities is part of WikiProject Pittsburgh, which is building a comprehensive guide to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, its metropolitan area and related subjects on Wikipedia. To participate, you can edit the attached article, join, or discuss the project. Editors are currently needed to tag Pittsburgh-related articles with {{pghproj}}.

pittsburgh does not = all of swpa, this needs to be cleaned up


Templates for deletion This template survived a request for deletion. The result of the [[{{{entry}}}|discussion]] was keep.

Dan100 (Talk) 15:48, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of Colleges/Universities

Surely the Pittsburgh Youth Ballet is not a college or university --Brad

[edit] Reason for existance?

What is the purpose of this template? Is it really desirable to have a list of all surrounding universities on each of the university pages? It seems that people visiting one university is generally not interested in learning about other universities that's linked to the university in question only by physical proximity. Adding this template to each of the university pages adds significant bulk.

That is not to say that the information contained within the template might not be interesting in a different context. For instance, this could be interesting material for the Pittsburgh, PA article. --BenjaminTsai 05:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Point Park University

Point Park is currently listed as a college. It should be listed under "Universities", as Point Park is an accredited university according to the MSCHE and Pennsylvania Department of Education. --Hans404

Institutions of higher learning are simply accredited or not; they are not accredited "as universities" vs. being accredited "as colleges." In the US, any institution can call itself a "university" -- many do (Point Park is one) simply for the prestige that the word lends. In the rest of the world (as it used to be until very recently in the US), a "university" is an institution that awards a significant number of graduate degrees and whose faculty is required to engage in a significant amount of research. In the US, the Carnegie classification system ranks institutions according to the degrees they offer. Categories I and IIA are universities in the traditional sense of the word. Categories IIB and III are colleges in the traditional sense of the word. Point Park is a category IIB, hence it is not a university in anything but name. Wikiant 18:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Instead of just listing that "Point Park is a IIB college", it would be nice if you had explained your criteria in advance. Could you maybe provide a link to where you got your data from. Otherwise, thanks for the info. --Hans404
The criteria is not "mine." It is (in the US) the accepted classification system. The categorizations are listed in the Chronicle of Higher Education. It is a paid subscription site. Here is a (free access) link that lists Point Park and its classification (http://www.stat.iastate.edu/courses/stat421/Labs/lab02/aaup2.dat). Wikiant 02:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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