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Contents 1 Son 2 Picture 3 Cartoon 4 Dial H For Hero 5 New cartoon pilot deleted without comment 5.1 Response 5.2 Text Article 6 "possibly immortal"

[edit] Son

This article mentions Plastic Man's son, Luke, but I was under the impression that he doesn't exist in the comics anymore. --Lex 07:44, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Does anyone have a good Jack Cole illustration of Plastic Man handy? Ross is a swell painter, but he has to be one of the least appropriate artists to illustrate this character. Tverbeek 16:28, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I was thinking the exact same thing... There's not only a style problem here, but I'm always disappointed when a character with such a long publication history is slanted towards his recent appearances. There's a great and highly extensive issue and cover database at http://www.comics.org/index.lasso, though the site seems to be down pretty frequently (as it is at the moment). Otherwise, we can try just using the on google, and I'm sure we can find a great cover from Police Comics or his own Quality title. Postdlf 16:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I tried a Google and didn't find much: mostly recent and silver-age images, and the cover to Police Comics #1, which only includes a head-shot of Plas. Tverbeek

That's the ticket! Thanks for finding that new image. Tverbeek 11:46, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cartoon

Plastic Man is supposed to see the world as cartoon images, this is supposedly a side effect of the acid accident.

[edit] Dial H For Hero

Plastic Man was partially revived in an issue of House of Mystery during the "Dial 'H' For Hero" run in the 1960s. H-Dialer Robby Reed turned into Plas and then fought the real Plas in what can be described in modern terms as a "backdoor pilot". Hope that helps.

Edit:No I mean I as the main image!

[edit] New cartoon pilot deleted without comment

Why was my line about the new (rejected) cartoon pilot deleted without comment? --Chancemichaels 18:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)Chancemichaels

[edit] Response

Hello Kf4bdy,

The reasoning behind me posting “There is a 2006 unaired pilot for a Cartoon Network series called 'Plastic Man'. The episode has not been aired on TV and if it will be aired is still unknown. [1]” was that I thought I had cited my source clearly. I apology if I have not done so.

If you would please view the video Plastic Man Unreleased Pilot for Cartoon Network on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cavl9n8E18A. I know at first glance You Tube, may not seem as a reliable source, however the video contains copyrighted credits that makes the video genuine.

If you look closely the credits contain the following:

Opening Credits

Based on DC Comics Characters
Plastic Man Created by
Jack Cole

Developed for Television by
Tom Kenny
Andy Suriano

Ending Credits

Animation Services
Toon City Animation Inc.

Executives in Charge of
Production for Cartoon Network
Todd Casey
Heather Kenyon
Alex Manugian
Sam Register

© 2006 Warner Brothers Entertainment Inc.
All Rights Reserved 

The video gives credit to DC Comics and Jack Cole the owners and creator of Plastic Man. The video was developed for TV by Tom Kenny someone who has had previous involvement with animated programs. The animation work was done by Toon City Animation Inc. an official and established animation studio. The video was produced by Cartoon Network and cites Sam Register the vice president of Cartoon Network. Finally the video is copyrighted by Warner Brothers Entertainment Inc. the owners of DC Comics.

I hope that I was able to clear the misunderstanding, and cite my source more clearly. I would appreciate it if you could suggest a better and more efficient way of citing this information on Wikipedia.

Sincerely,

Bondswalterppk

Bondswalterppk 02:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Linking directly to YouTube (or any other "public" media site) is probably not a good idea, IMO, because of copyright issues -- when word of the pilot first got out, links were working only for a couple of hours at a time before the clip was taken down. The current link seems to have more staying power (I haven't checked) and the copyright owners may have given up trying to enforce it. The credits you list certainly provide appropriate research information (and they also point out the copyrights involved) -- but for Wiki-purposes it would help if we could find a reliable text article on the pilot and cite that instead. Otherwise, we just have a (probably pirated) video clip without any documentation to explain its existence. We're only conjecturing and/or doing original research, and that's not encyclopedic. HalJor 21:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Text Article

I just found a text article on the Plastic Man pilot at The TV IV [2] Bondswalterppk 00:00, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks for digging that up. HalJor 00:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

You did see that it's another Wiki, right? Those are usually not considered Reliable Sources. CovenantD 01:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I did, but it did cite its references, which is much better than we've had over here. The first of those references has since been "cleaned up" (as noted in the TV IV page), but the second is at least partially intact and seems to confirm the story. I would suggest we link directly to those sources instead, but that isn't exactly supported by Wikipedia guidelines either. HalJor 01:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Just pointing it out :) CovenantD 02:03, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "possibly immortal"

Is there any evidence that Plastic Man actually has some sort of immortality/rejuvenation, rather than just the generalized sliding timescale of most long-lived comic book characters? -- nae'blis 18:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the Post-crises section of the article talk about him being alive from before Atlantis sank to the present day?--Tenebrae 19:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

i don't know about immortality as in living forever, but Plastic man does have akryptonite weakness--petrol. it is referred to in 'plastic man rubber bandits' apparently it makes him dissolve220.101.132.113 07:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)