Talk:PlayStation Portable homebrew

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Contents 1 Total Rewrite 2 Best Homebrew Programs 3 Pictures and info 4 The force is strong in this one 5 Moving the piracy stuff to a different page 6 Multiplayer 7 Redundant Information 8 Re: Redundant Information 9 Error Fixed 10 2.70 11 Supergage 12 External links 13 Capitalisation 14 Most Advanced? 15 Remove information on how to recognize unpatched GTA:LCS boxes 16 Lua? 17 27th or 28th? 18 2.71 downgrader 19 TIFF programs section 20 DevHook 21 Updated Some Stuff 22 GameShare Loader 23 3.03 OE-A 24 Internet Relay Chat 25 Intro, Benefits, Risks & Summary 26 Major Cleaning Needed

[edit] Total Rewrite

I've spent the past hour and a bit editing, but this article still really needs help. Problems:

• Inaccurate, outdated information (one paragraph saying 1.00 was only firmware with homebrew)
• Lots of repeated information (list of the homebrew methods at the start, with a brief description, then even more detail later)
• Too many lists
• References to specific people (EdisonCarter and Fanjita are great, but there's no point in just mentioning them in one part of the article)

Fixes:

• Lots copy editing
• Generally needs to be more concise
• Perhaps the seperation into 1-1.51, 2.00+, Misc, instead of the current jumble.
• Consider splitting into several articles ("PSP (Emulation)", "List of PSP Homebrew Games" etc)

--Falcon9x5 14:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I have actually made efforts to clean the article up and remove the nonsense, but it became too difficult. --TheEmulatorGuy 23:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I just removed nearly all of the redundancies and useless information. There still needs to be sections re-written and I'm thinking the homebrew games and emulators should be put into seperate lists. --TheEmulatorGuy 23:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

It's looking a lot better now anyway. I might go through it and take out more later on, I'll see. Thanks --Falcon9x5 12:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

~30 edits, don't think it needs too much work now, maybe a general tidy of some parts (I still don't like the PMP format being in "Notable homebrew programs", but it's infinitely better than it was. --Falcon9x5 14:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

i'm currently making a new site about psphb --wilhel1812 13:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Best Homebrew Programs

People...you need to add to the "Best Homebrew Programs" list. I have only included the ones that I have used and enjoyed. Please add programs to the list only if you have used them and enjoyed them.

How about mentioning device hook which can emulate firmwares.

[edit] Pictures and info

I think it needs pictures of things running on the PSP, also I just split the text up into sections, might be wrong. Havok 21:55, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

I can take screenshots and pictures of homebrew running on the psp. I just dont know what should be shown that would add most to the article, perhaps pictures at each stage of a psp being downgraded from 2.00 to 1.50 using the MPH downgrader? powerfool 07:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The force is strong in this one

I have a feeling this article could have great potential. I'll probably work on it in the future, but we need some sort of way of getting it more noticed. The PSP homebrew scene is quite large, and as such, this could provide for a large article. Xizer 09:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moving the piracy stuff to a different page

Would be a good idea as it has nothing to do with legitimate homebrew development at all.

But you have to differ between piracy (loading isos) and just loading UMDs you own under firmware versions they were not meant to run under.

[edit] Multiplayer

I play multiplayer games on my GBA Movie Player. Will homebrew game system emulators for PSP have multiplayer mode so other PSPs can play older games (or homebrew games for older systems)? It it is able to, mention its ability in the article. --SuperDude 04:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Redundant Information

As the homebrew scene constantly changes and evolves, new information is continuously being added to this page. Unfortunately, the information that has become irrelevant or obselete is left intact, creating a tangled web of information. Many of the sections could do with complete rewrite to better reflect the current state of the homebrew scene, with a seperate section preserving the historical aspects.

[edit] Re: Redundant Information

I may rewrite this if I get a chance(maybe when i get unbanned from the schools PCs on April 6th...crappy school banned me for using Firefox)

[edit] Error Fixed

I fixed an error. The previous person who editied the homebrew devs list made it that McZonk and Placa were in MPH. That is incorrect; they are in Team Emergency Exit. And MPH had nothing to do with Quake 2. --Benlisquare 03:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2.70

2.70 patches the GTA exploit. --205.240.39.203 21:23, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Supergage

Supergage (a new external link added) links directly to a rom/iso site. Is this suitable for the article? --Falcon9x5 12:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I will be removing all the External links for this article, seeing as Wikipedia is not a link repository, and that section is way to big. Before I do, let us discuss it. Havok (T/C/c) 10:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Removed them for now. Do not re-add them before we have found out which linkes to keep. We can't keep all the links as Wikipedia is not a link repository. Havok (T/C/c) 20:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I just put back psp updates and psp dcemu, they're both regularly updated with recent, relevant, news --Falcon9x5 13:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I added PSP-Programming's tutorials. It is a relevant site with unique and necessary information for users wishing to create their own homebrew. --Brad 11:35, 19 Jan 2007

[edit] Capitalisation

Anyone prefer having capitals in the section titles? --Falcon9x5 10:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I honestly don't give a shit who prefers capitals, because it's in the manual of style not to.--TheEmulatorGuy 05:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most Advanced?

I would contend that calling the Genesis the "most advanced" system to be emulated at full-speed is POV. To avoid a holy war between Nintendo and Sega fanboys, it might be best to rephrase as something like "16-bit-era consoles" and mention both the Genesis and SNES. I'm not sure if TG16 is full-speed now or not, but I can vouch personally for the previous two. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.164.102.17 (talk • contribs).

I aggree. In fact, I think the SNES is the only one to be fully emulated. But "16-bit" is fine +Falcon9x5 06:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remove information on how to recognize unpatched GTA:LCS boxes

Check this link: http://www.qj.net/How-to-find-a-Homebrew-Friendly-version-of-GTA-LCS-Updated/pg/49/aid/58178 It's a mess. Ultimately, it's not possible to tell for sure if a certain box or disk is "patched" or not. I suggest we remove the information until things are sorted out, before someone blindly believes this article, and wastes his money. I am not a regular, so I won't remove the info (I don't feel qualified), but I will add a note...

[edit] Lua?

I think Lua should be mentioned under notable homebrew, as it's definately become something of importance to homebrew, there are at least a hundred games and applications released for it. I'm not too familiar with the program or its history so anyone willing to add it? Mr toasty 17:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 27th or 28th?

(The 2.70+ homebrew section) The Hello World program says it was completed on the 27th, not the 28th. The newspost confirmation was posted on the 28th. Should it be changed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.57.56.137 (talk • contribs).

I assume it was completed on the 27th in some parts of the world, 28th in others - I changed it to read "late August". +Fin - 15:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2.71 downgrader

Why hasn't the new down grader been mentioned?

It has. See the 2.70+ section. +Fin - 22:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TIFF programs section

There's a new section devoted to the new TIFF homebrew programs. (I didn't write it; I just fixed some grammatical errors.) To be quite frank, I'm not entirely sure this section is needed -- all the information there is already under the 2.71+ section. (Except for the stuff about the sound and graphics being bad, which is obvious at this point.) Your thoughts? Perhaps as things evolve, the section will be more necessary. Jvd897 21:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DevHook

Should we include all the firmwares DevHook can emulate? Also, should we include 2.71 SE support in the DevHook Launcher/VSHEX Mod? Should we include the DevHook Launcher/VSHEX Mod and note it for its new Enhanced CSO cache system? (JALsnipe 01:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC))

As far as I'm aware DevHook only loads the flash1 config files onto the PSP's flash1, so stating that a large part of firmare is installed there would be false. I'd imagine the ratio of what is running from the MS pro duo to what is flashed onto the PSP would be somthing like 10000:1 (Apoptygma 12:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Updated Some Stuff

Well I updated some stuff, including info on the new release of 2.71 SE-C and also included the news that Booster will be releasing v0.50 of DevHook very soon... Timboman2000 02:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GameShare Loader

Should we include info about the GameShare Loader for firmwares 2.6-2.8? Should we also include the ability to back up GameShares as demos? (JALsnipe 18:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC))

[edit] 3.03 OE-A

You guys think that should be added to this article??? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

No, there is no such thing as 3.03 OE-A at the moment. There is however 3.02 OE-B.

He made no mistake. 3.03 OE-A is, as I gather, Dark_Alex's next (or possibly current) project. It is still very much a work in progress, so there's not much to write. And sign your comments. 80.194.187.185 01:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

It has been released so I added it. Someone can add a source to back it up. --Thaddius 04:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Internet Relay Chat

I think a list of the popular IRC servers and channels would be useful for this page. IRC is integral to the development of PSP homebrew. At the least, it plays a big part.

[edit] Intro, Benefits, Risks & Summary

Hi, The page is very good, but it is more like a history lesson for people who already know what all this is about. I would really love to see an introduction to the subject that talks about the benefits of downgrading the firmware, or the benefits of custom firmware over the offical Sony versions. Why are the returns worth the risk? Also a sumamry at the end would be good. What progress has been achieved and where the next challenges are. I know that this is touched on, but it would be a good idea to group that info together. Thanks

[edit] Major Cleaning Needed

I was reading this article, and realzied that it needs a LOT of work to even be worthy of Wikipedia... There is so much to clean I don't know where to start, some suggestions please? GotPSP 22:18, 31 January 2007 (UTC) Also, I don't think that the homebrew itself and the history should be in one page. As is, this article is longer than some biographies...GotPSP 22:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)