Talk:Prince of Orange
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I just want to say why I had to rewrite a large part of this page.
1. The original text gave the impression that the Dutch rule of succession was primogeniture with preference for males between 1815 and 1983. This is incorrect. The rule was semi-Salic until 1923, then it became primogeniture with preference for males until 1983, and now it's "gender-blind".
2. Female heirs never bore the title 'Princess of Orange'. Nevertheless, they were (and are) often called Princess of Orange by the popular press, but this is the same as the British tabloids calling Diana, Princess of Wales "Princess Diana". Erwin 19:19, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)
[edit] Clean-up of "The Princes of Orange" section
The section "The Princes of Orange" needs to be cleaned up, in particular the paragraph starting with "After the death of Willem III..." See also the note inserted between HTML comment tags in that paragraph. ··· rWd · Talk ··· 10:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Imho the "princes of Orange" section has now been fairly cleaned up, so the cleaning message could be removed. Mvdleeuw 13:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Grant and courtesy
This part "In the 19th century the female variant of the title was also sometimes specifically granted to the heir apparent's wife. Instead of gaining the title by courtesy, it has to be granted to wives. Princess Máxima, wife of the current heir apparent, Prince Willem-Alexander, does not bear the title." is not right. The two 19th century Princesses of Orange bore the title by courtesy. It wasn't granted. Princess Maxima was granted the title Princess of the Netherlands in her own right, something that never happened before to wives of Dutch Princes. The fact that the Orange title wasn't included in the grant doesn't prevent her from using "Princess of Orange" as a courtesy title however. However she chooses not to do so. I'll remove the text.Gerard von Hebel 22:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
