Talk:Principe de Sayd
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Cem lived during the second half of the 15th century. Mehmed III, who is supposedly the father of Djem lived during the second half of the 16th century and early 17th century. Djem's brother is not Osman but Bayezid II... Bayezit is not younger than Djem, he is the older brother. And anyway at the time there was no rule for the succession of the older brother to the Ottoman throne, every son was a legitamate candidate and they were raised as such... I don't know who came up with this article but it is absolutely the worst Wikipedia entry I have ever seen. And all these outrageous mistakes are done in the first few sentences. Who knows what other gems are hidden in the latter parts of the article where the history becomes more local and individual. I really do wonder who wrote this. 68.105.255.76 23:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed merge
- Initial thoughts i have on a merge are places on Talk:List of claimants to the title of Principe de Sayd, could we please keep all/any discussion to the one place, for clarity? Cheers, Jdcooper 22:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Context
This article makes no sense at all to most readers. I can't figure it out enough to improve it! Is it about the people who have held a paticularly title over time? In Malta? Turkey? Elsewhere? PLEASE, you who have contributed so much to it, write an introductory paragraph or two that tells people what is going on - DavidWBrooks 22:05, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Cem and Djem
Have I misunderstood something, or are there TWO alleged brothers of certain Padishahs?
Then, surprisingly, both families end up in the little island of Malta. AND, form a joint family. Which here has a common history.
Does it really mean that an alleged Prince, Gian Sayd, executed 1799, is member of both families simultaneously.
Somehow I am a bit distrustful for these efforts of "finding an illustrious genealogy" for his family by an author himself.
There appears, also here in Wikipedia, all sorts of lost heirs whose pretender families end up in Malta. Sometimes I think that the little island must have drowned in the sea under the weight of all these title holders who have a lengthy list of kingdoms. What is the percentage of such families in total population of Malta? 120% or what?
Cem and Djem is the same person. The percentage of Nobility in Malta was only a mere 1% of the population. Charles Said-Vassallo
