Talk:Pro Football Hall of Fame

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Contents 1 By Team 2 Franchises moving 3 Positions 4 Prior to 1981 5 My list of future Hall of Famers 6 Pro Football Hall of Fame special events

[edit] By Team

Someone went to the trouble of dividing each member of the HOF into "inductees by team," but the HOF itself does not designate an individual inductee to a certain team. For instance, Mike Ditka is listed with the Bears, the Eagles, and the Cowboys, the three teams he played for during his career. The HOF makes no attempt to classify an individual as belonging to a certain team - unless, of course, the individual played/coached/operated one team during his entire career (E.g., Anthony Munoz of the Bengals). My point is, if the HOF doesn't break down players this way, I think the author installs his or her POV by classifying individuals who played for more than one team as "belonging" to just one team. --BrownHornet21 05:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

You're right. This should definately be the other way around; List the person, year inducted, years active, and teams active. (Instead of categorising by team). I can imagine a nice table could probably do the job... Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 06:30, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I agree. I figure the columns should be:

• Name
• Year inducted
• Position(s) played (or "coach", "owner", "broadcaster")
• Team(s) with years played/affiliated with each

Thoughts? Al 19:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

For readability, the columns are arranged as described above. KyuuA4 22:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. --BrownHornet21 05:30, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Ah...whoever did this copied from http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/teams.jsp (and is using the exact same format--probably a copyvio). Anyway, I've started working on listing the inductees alphabetically. Wrathchild 01:26, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Phew! It's done. There's a couple of red names left. Let's be sure to get them at least stubs. --Wrathchild (talk) 16:48, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Franchises moving

There seems to be some inconsistency in the listing. Most teams that move are listed at their current location (e.g. Redskins, Colts). But players for the original Cleveland Browns franchise (now the Baltimore Ravens) are listed at "Cleveland Browns". Shouldn't this be rectified in some way? john k 02:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the Cleveland Browns is a special case. The NFL has ruled that the current Cleveland Browns inherits the old Cleveland Browns records. The Baltimore Ravens are treated as a brand new franchise, not as a moved franchise. Wrathchild 02:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Positions

It would be nice to see the position shown for players (RB,WR,QB) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.243.218.121 (talk • contribs).

I'll see if I can start adding that in. It might be too much. —Wrathchild ^(talk) 14:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prior to 1981

It can't be prior to 1981, as many post-1981 players are already in. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.188.172.165 (talk • contribs).

According to the HOF website, the normal selection committee looks at "modern era" players, while the senior committee looks at players from before the "modern era". I've not seen a definition for "modern era" yet, although I would expect that it would be post-Merger, though I'd expect them to use that terminology if c.1970 was the benchmark. —Wrathchild ^(talk) 14:45, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Okay, according to a press release about the 2006 semi-finalists, the seniors committee looks at players (and coaches, presumably) who played over 25 years ago. In 2006 that would be 1981. Since that will continue to be a moving target I'll see about changing the wording so that it doesn't need to be updated every year. —Wrathchild ^(talk) 14:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My list of future Hall of Famers

Here are some probable future Hall of Famers:

• Brett Favre has passed for 400 TD's in his career.
• Rod Woodson: 1,483 yds. on interceptions and 12 TD's on interceptions.
• Morten Andersen is the all-time leader in points.
• Gary Anderson made 538/672 FG's in his career
• Terrell Davis could be one of the youngest Hall of Fame inductees.
• Steve McNair
• Priest Holmes
• Donovan McNabb
• Tom Brady
• Drew Bledsoe
• Jerry Rice scored 208 TD's.
• Rich Gannon
• Randall Cunningham
• LaDainian Tomlinson

Mewtwowimmer 19:58, 29 November 2006

Rich Gannon, Cunningham, McNair, and Bledsoe will never make it respectivly, I wish I could say that is an opinion but it isn't. The rest of the list I strongly agree. Peyton Manning should make it despite never winning the Super Bowl or going to one. For more players who I think and don't think should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, see my user page.--Phbasketball6 13:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Gannon, Cunningham, and Bledsoe almost certainly won't make it. I'd put McNair, Holmes, Terrell Davis, and Gary Anderson into the "probably not" category. Holmes and Davis were great players, but their careers/impact are likely too short for the HOF selectors to give them serious consideration. Gary A. belongs, in my opinion, but it's awfully hard for kickers to make it. Mort should get it. Favre, Woodson, Rice, and LT are locks. If McNabb can play for a few more years to build up his stats and Pro Bowl appearances, he should get it. BrownHornet21 20:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pro Football Hall of Fame special events

This was just added to the article. I don't think it's encyclopedic. Opinions? —Wrathchild ^(talk) 20:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I've been bold. —Wrathchild ^(talk) 13:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)