Talk:Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario

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1 On Frost...
2 Frank Miller
3 August 3 reversion
4 New Logo

[edit] On Frost...

This statement: anti-Catholic, anti-French, anti-immigrant strain of the Tories was evident under Drew and his successor, Leslie Frost, shows obvious bias. This is why people hate wiki.

Need to fill in gaps in list of Tory leaders.

[edit] Frank Miller

I note that the link of former Premier Miller's name leads to the comic book writer and artist Frank Miller. While it would be amusing to think the two men were one and the same, they are not. The former Premier (1927-2000)

is not the comic book Frank Miller.

[edit] August 3 reversion

I've reverted to an earlier version because the changes this afternoon display the political bias of the anonymous writer. For example, he/she/it changed the comment that Eves was unable to reverse the PC Party's slide in the polls to a suggestion that he caused it. I'm pretty sure that the party was low in the polls before Eves took over. If someone can present evidence to the contrary, I'll happily change my view. The mystery editor should review Wikipedia's policies regarding point of view. Kevintoronto 21:09, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I hate reverting, so I've done a bit of research. The Ipsos-Reid polls (see website link in article) confirms my belief that the slide in the polls occurred before Eves became leader. In fact, the party recovered in the polls during the first few months of his leadership, only to sink again later. I've incorporated some comments along these lines in the article in order to support the 'despite' statement of a previous writer. This also gives a better picture of what was going on during this period.Kevintoronto 18:01, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I am wondering if you could make one more edit to clarify a minor point. At one point the article says the Eves Tories gained in the polls after the provincial budget; in another it says that the budget cost them support. Is this a contradiction, or are we talking about two different budgets? HistoryBA 23:46, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Good catch. These were two different budgets. I have clarified. Kevintoronto 13:25, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I have edited further to correct my mistake: the first of those budgets, introduced by Flaherty, was actually the last of the Harris government. Eves' government introduced only the one budget (by Janet Ecker), the 'Magna budget'. The polling data show that that budget did not help the Tories. Kevintoronto 13:09, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

There needs to be more here on the Tories' 42 year dynasty. At present, Leslie Frost and John Robarts don't even get a mention. AndyL 20:42, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)