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[edit] Changes
Gloriana is not Psylocke's middle name in the true reality, only the one she had in the House Of M reality warp. As for her codename, it's a play on the term 'psi-lock', a phrase Chris Claremont coined and was fond of using in Uncanny X-Men at the time.
A psi-lock is when a telepath seizes someone's thoughts, freezing their body and holding them immobile.
- It seems unlikely that Gloriana was her middle name even in House of M. It was given, effectively, as a title in House of M, which makes sense considering it was one of the popular honorifics of Elizabeth I.
[edit] Creators
Alan Moore and Alan Davis are not her creators. Her first appearance, Captain Britain #8, was written by Chris Claremont and Herb Trimpe.--DrBat 20:43, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Ultimate Psylocke
Is it just me, or did Betsy seem to be of Asian origin in Ultimate X-Men even before she posessed Kwannon? Ultimate James and Brian are clearly Caucasian, so I'm not sure what to make of this, but that's what it looked like Daibhid C 15:30, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- You got a point, Betsy looked a bit Asian there. But as long there is no concrete info, just leave it at that IMHO. Onomatopoeia 14:08, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
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- Betsy Braddock was originally from Great Britian, it was only after she was kidnapped that her appearence was changed to that of her captors, which were of Japanese origin. They were ninja, who along with assimilating her appearence also taught her martial arts while incorporating her "psyche-knife," in her fighting capabilities. She isn't Japanese, she is British JennyFinn 20:55, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
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- So, I'm not the biggest expert on X-Men ever, but "British" is a nationality, whereas "Japanese" is both a nationality and an ethnicity. 29 May 2006
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- "British" is a ethnicity when compaired to the other cultures in Europe, just as Japan is different when compaired to Korea or China. But this hardly matters since this discussion is over the Ultimate version of the character, and JennyFinn is clearly talking about the mainstream version.
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Is Ultimate Psylocke a mutant? I've only seen her appearance in the storyline with Proteus, but it seems to me like she is not classified as a mutant. Her position is not surrounded by the controversy associated with mutanthood; maybe she's only a "normal human" whose psychic ability is unrelated to mutation?
Psylocke is a mutant in the Ultimate universe. It was stated by Proteus (while in possession of her body) that she used her family status and STRIKE affiliation to avoid the Sentinel attacks aimed at mutants worldwide.
[edit] Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Concerning her appearance in MvC2, I don't recall Psylocke ever being considered a top tier character. In fact, I have never in the history of my time on the internet read anyone talking about Psylocke in MvC2, leading me to believe she is in fact rather weak in the game.
Well, she is on the cover. That makes me think of her as a top tier...
[edit] Psyche?
I'm going to remove the phrase "believed to be a pun on 'Psyche'" from this article until someone can verify this assumption. I've always thought it was a combination of "Psychic" and "Warlock" (though admittedly that doesn't make much sense). Applejuicefool 20:45, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Heh. That took me a bit. I don't know if there's any support for it, but it's awesome.
[edit] Intro getting long?
Should some of the first few paragraphs of this entry be put down in the "character history" section? j-beda 14:30, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] on film
does anyone know of a pic where you can clearly see the tattoo? i had not seen this. Amo 21:52, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, i didn't see the red tattoo in the film. She and callisto's gang all hang regular tatoos of a mutant symbol, as a display of pride, but as i say, so far as i could see they were your standard ink tatoo. I removed this speculation from the article. Amo 12:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
If you look closely at the Meiling Melancon Psylocke pic, you can see a red scar-like mark over her left eye.NeoCoronis 20:31, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- A better example is at Meiling Melançon; same picture, but this one is blown up in the code. EVula 21:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- the pic in the Melançon article looks fuzzy to me, and i can't see anything above her eye, as her fringe is so long. Amo 22:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, speaking of the film, it seems no one here can decide whether or not Psylocke died at the end of the film. One minute, someone says she went of camera and lived, and another, it says she got fried. Because of this flip-flopping, can we lock the article until further noticed? If not, what can we do to reduce the flip-flopping? Can't we all decide on one thing?! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crboyer (talk • contribs).
- Well we can wait for the DVD and do a frame by frame analysis. Or we can wait for official word from FOX. I don't really care whether she lived or died anyway. --Facto 19:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, good idea. I think we can wait for the DVD. Crboyer
I tried to clarify this section last night...hope it helps. Tullyman 16:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Where does Psylocke escape in the book?
Could someone tell me where Psylocke escapes in the book? What page number is it?
Can you specify the book? I am sure she has made lots of escapes.Dorin 20:30, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
i think they mean the X-Men: the last stand novellisation. Amo 22:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I do. So where did she escape in the novellisation of the movie? could I have the exact page number?
[edit] Removed image
I removed Image:Psylock.gif in a recent edit. Why? For starters, it was an obnoxiously spastic animated GIF; very small number of frames repeated, ad nauseam, that was really getting on my nerves. It also has no copyright information. On top of that, she doesn't look any different on the show than she does in the comics; the picture doesn't illustrate anything that isn't already taken care of by the other images. I also redid the EVula 15:23, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fighting skills
Psylocke is skilled in several forms of combat, such as kung fu, ninjutsu and chi sao (mentioned by Wolverine in X-men Unlimited #47, series 1).
I am sorry but I removed chi sao. Chi sao is NOT a form of combat. Any person who is a practicioner of Wing Chun Kung Fu (which this training drill comes from) or Jeet Kune Do will tell you. At best chi sao can be described as physical conditioning to help facilitate Wing Chun or Jeet Kune Do combat techniques.
Apparently the editors at Marvel were mistaken about the true purpose and intentions. If someone wants to say Psylocke is skilled in Wing Chun or Jeet Kune Do that would be more accurate. If so, please provide proper documentation. User:hokgwai 09;58, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Marvel Comics characters who can fly
Psylocke is listed in the "Marvel Comics characters who can fly" catergory, please can I ask why? I've never seen her use the ability of flight. Even her telekinesis doesn't allow her to fly (yet) - she can shatter mountains but doesn't have the control to move individual items. Would it be ok if I removed her from the catergory? Scarlettspiderg 20:53, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
- I forget the issue number, but during the introduction of Neal Shaara, she uses her TK to fly around with Archangel. That is the only instance that I can think of...but since it has happened, I would say keep her in the category. Tullyman 21:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
She is also shown flying after Rachel Summers (who was possessed by Nocturne at the time), don't know exact issue numbers but it was during House of M.
Psylocke flew in X-Men (2nd series) #103, X-Treme X-Men #2, Uncanny X-Men #464 and Uncanny X-Men #466. Not only did a she fly in Uncanny X-Men, but she levitated while stretching for the Sentinel ONE squad.
[edit] Notes section
I moved a seemingly ancillary comment about Psylocke's Brazilian name to a Notes section which I made. I didn't want to delete it b/c it was a cool fact, but if someone doesn't see the use of the section for one bullet point, talk about it. Tullyman 21:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Should the spoiler-info be moved to the notes section?
I say no, since it has to do with the character's upcoming history instead of a random fact (although I think that some of the stuff like the "letter in the article page" breaks compositional flow) Tullyman 19:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, let's keep it as it is then. I was just wondering because I feal that the "letter" should be deleted from the Shadow King-entry coming january and moving the spoiler-info would than have been something temporary.
[edit] No more fans?
I was just wondering if the phrase “considered by many fans” (and/or the word “fans”) really should be posted. To me a statement that has the word “fans” in it sounds more of an opinion than a fact, so I say it should be deleted (unless the statement can be verified and thus complying with Wikipedia’s “five pillars”).
[edit] Removed Omega Level
I removed the speculation about Psylocke being an Omega level mutant in the power section. I can understand the reason for wanting to classify her as one, as she did inherented Jean's telekinesis, but I don't think that a mere power-switch can classify Psylocke as an Omega as it is the ability or the potential of a character to be an Omega, not the power that that certain individual has at the moment. Another factor speaking against Psylocke being a potential Omega is the fact that this has not (to my knowledge, you may correct me if I'm wrong about this) been officially confirmed by anyone, neither by Marvels editors or their writers.
[edit] Relationship
The section here makes no mention of Beast. Does anyone know more about this? I missed it in the comics myself, but when she returns to the mansion with Rachel she and Hank are way more than friendly. Kiss, lick, sniffing (and references to how she smells). I can't find the issue at the moment, but does anyone know more on this? I just remember thinking "what the bloody hell did I miss." Onikage725 11:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Film "Death"
Is this confirmed by a screen cap or statement. I saw the film twice, but I don't have the DVD, but I remember the screen not being on Psylocke when Quill and Arclight died. It also seems odd that they would close the book on a popular and prominent character from the comics with such a small role after giving her the power to teleport and seemingly shifting the camera off her during her supposed death. Onikage725 11:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
