Talk:Pumped-storage hydroelectricity
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[edit] edits
Edited the first few paragraphs, removed extraneous material, and cleaned up the text somewhat. pes 12/APR/06
[edit] Wikilinked headers
The Wikipedia:Manual of Style says not to Wikilink from within headers. Yet that style works here and saves a fair amount of vertical space that would otherwise be wasted by including a lame little sentence under each country's subhead.
Does anyone have any strong feelings about this or, even better, a practical solution that still meets the Style Guide's guidance?
Atlant 19:23, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with the manual of style guidance to avoid linking headings. The linking of country name headings in this article reduces value rather than adds it. I removed the links but the removal was reverted. I did not understand the summary that was given with the revert: "non standard heading formats with spurious = signs". Bobblewik (talk) 23:45, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
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- You used === Countryname == = instead of === Countryname ===. I fixed it. pstudier 01:21, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
[edit] California Water Project
Several of the California State Water Project reservoirs are used as pumped storage. Their pumps are bidirectional. --Nagle 07:52, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Additional reversible hydropower plants
There are two additional reversible hydropower plants in the former Yugoslavia, RHE Velebit near town Obrovac in Croatia, and CHE Capljina near Capljina in Bosnia-Herzegovina. Both are productive more than 20 years.
[edit] Place names in Spain
Just to notice to the page author that I've removed again the name of "Estangento" in order to leave the only and real name of the hydropower station of "Sallente-Estany Gento". Furthermore, the word "Estangento" has no meaning in Catalan nor in Spanish beacause the spanish translation of Estany" isn't "Estan" and "Gento" is the name of the upper lake like "Sallente" is the down one.
- The above unsigned edit created by User:Xaf-bcn, overwriting a previous unrelated talk page entry, on 23 Sep 2006. Tidied up by WLD 11:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
- An editor User:Xaf-bcn has taken to renaming some of the pumped storage stations in Spain in Catalan, and removing Castillian Spanish names of the same places. As I understand it, Castillian Spanish is an official language over all of Spanish territory, so at the very least, I would expect both names to be listed, in much the same way as articles involving Welsh place names include the name in both English and Welsh variants. Thoughts, anyone? WLD 11:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] HPSP
Could somebody say if Hydropower Pumped Storage Plant abbreaviation HPSP is correct? If yes then I would suggest to make HPSP redirect to this page--DmitriyR 13:47, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Terminology / numbers
Can anyone provide a reasonable breakdown of terminology for some of the numbers? There are both GWh and MW/GW numbers here, and the text is confusing due to this since they nominally refer to the same thing.
Simply to get the discussion going, and provide a baseline for people to beat up on for clarity purposes, I would suggest the following. If these are non-standard terms and there are better ones, by all means. Capacity: generic and to be avoided on this page.
Throughput capacity: the faceplate output of a given source at normal maximum output (peak output may be higher). Measured in watts, i.e. MW and GW. Usually electrical output that can be generated.
Storage capacity: Maximum estimated storage capacity, i.e. how much electrical energy can be stored (in potential) at normal levels of water, and efficiency levels, etc. Measured in watt/hours, i.e. MWh and GWh.
Storage Hours: At maximum throughput, how many hours of operation for the maximum storage capacity.
Annual stored output: How much was fed into the grid in a given year in stored output. Measured in watt/hours. Will be substantially less than storage times throughput if actually used for storage (i.e. surplus).
Annual stored input: how much actually pumped back up, in watt/hours, over a given period.
Storage throughput: faceplate normal maximum input of a source, i.e. pump, back into storage. Measured in watts. May be different from the throughput capacity.
Efficiency ratio: If 100 MWh of electricity consumed to pump water back up, and results in output of 50 MWh, efficiency is 50%. Measured in percent.
[edit] storing electricity
Is it really correct to say that this is a meathod of storing electricity? It is actually storing energy that can be converted back to electricity. Also, some other form of energy could be used to pump the water into the upper resevoir.-Crunchy Numbers 19:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] nonsense statement
"In 1999 the EU had 32 GWh capacity of pumped storage out of a total of 188 GWh of hydropower and representing 5.5% of total electrical capacity in the EU."
The above statement is nonsense. Eregli bob 10:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Why? 32 GWh out of total 188 GWh hydropower and 5,5% of total capacity. --Jklamo 13:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
