Talk:Pyrokinesis
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[edit] Personal Commentaries
I added the header to this discussion (by an indeterminate number of unidentified posters) to tidy the page a little and get everything under the index. Septegram 21:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Pyrokinesis is a power that is part of Psi. Psi is a power that is atact with the mined. Pyrokinesis is a Psi power that alows you to controle fire. It is pritty cool to me. I just hope that I dont git my self bernt.
Well my faverit power would be TK, that means telekinesis. It is Relly cool becuse telekinesis you can pick up objects. With TK you could do some thing werid like pick up people with out tuching them. So there would be thing like boxes moveing around and fliying into walls.
Pyrokinesis Could chang being in the cold to being in Florda. Well that is more thin I could say.
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Perhaps you should do more research into psionics before you claim what one can and cannot do. Trying to do the things you mentioned would be a good way to kill yourself instantly.
I agree with you very much, you will hurt yourself and others around you.
- I think you'll find the most these "pyrokinetics" claim to be able to do is putting out matches.
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I think it should say real pyrokinetic abilities and not the fake ones done in comic books.
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Pyrokinesis is a topic that seems to be either incredibly broad or narrow. I've been discussing the topic with several of my friends and we're interested into any scientific research into the psionic ability. A few questions that have rose while talking to those friends are:
Does Pryokinesis limit itself to the creation of fire? Does it include the control of the speed of particles after a flame has been created? (This has already been answered in the article I believe) Are there any theories, opposed to conclusive evidence, to how the mind could be capable of creating/moving/destroying a flame? Do any noticible cases involving claimed pyrokinesis exist?
Looking to the article, I notice it's only three sentences. Ouch. Then there is a lack of description below the 'In Fiction' portion, all that exists being a link to the main article. I would love it if someone could find some supposed cases of pyrokinesis and place the claimed strengths of the ability. Perhaps someone could find a link between fire, which has been shown to effect power lines with it's electromagnetic field, and the human mind.
I will look for some research and cases and I hope others will do so also. I believe this article could be longer without the need to dedicate a portion to fiction.
[edit] Clean up
Why not take down the multitude of listed names and put them all in a category? :) Dlohcierekim 01:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I went ahead and put Category:Fictional people with pyrokinesis o all the charactes with pages. :) Dlohcierekim 02:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- We need to put back the list of things that you are capable doing with pyrokinesis, otherwise the section should be called "Pyrokinetic people" not "Pyrokinesis." --Anyr 15:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm only posting this to emphasise the fact that pyrokinesis is a psionic/psychic ability, not simply the ability to generate/manipulate flame and heat. Although the two go hand-in-hand as far as their functionality, one is produced by the power of the mind and the other is physical. Not to mention, the likelihood that a person could manipulate flame psionically (if only on an extremely subtle level) isn't ruled out as a possibility, where as the vast number of things that a comic book superhuman can do with that ability is clearly fictional (as far as we know...nothing's impossible). Lumping the Wikipedia definition of pyrokinesis in almost entirely with comic book fiction somewhat trivializes that possibility, making it less of a paranormal phenomenon and more of a cartoonish idea. The Wikipedia definition of psychokinesis isn't simply a list of telekinetic fictional characters that toss tractors at people with a pissed off thought. Why, then, should pyrokinesis be? Just a question. I'm not some hardcore pyrokinesis enthusiast. I'm just trying to do my little part in keeping Wikipedia as consistent as it can be.Chaosphere 12:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)Chaosphere
[edit] Thinking of adding a listing to the References section
But, it looks as if you all want to clean that out or otherwise change it.
Reference Additions:
Fire Blast / Fire Manipulation "Blaster" powersets from City of Heroes Fire Assault / Thermal Radiation "Corruptor" powersets from City of Villains
Both games have a 'pyrokinetic' class.
The Blaster is your classic example of pyrokinesis - thrown flames, fireballs, flame breath, immolating targets at close range, using flames as shields, using flames to imprison, creating 'fire showers' that affect a wide area, all the way up to a character-centered explosive blast that levels pretty much everything.
The Corruptor is more an 'evil counterpart' - the focus here is also damage from fire or heat, but the Corruptor also focuses on encasing their allies in shields of flame, or emitting flames that heal themselves or allies within range.
I will have to find the 'official' write-up of both character classes (and all four powersets) and link them in as references, once I get home from work and have access to the official game sites.
Regards, --Professor Blues 14:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article Splitting
A suggestion for the people watching this article. Perhaps you could split this page, one dealing with the psi phenomena of pyrokinesis, and another that deal with it's fictional uses. It's my understanding that the goal for this page is to look more like the other parapsychology pages and not just a place to promote people's favourite fictional firestarters. CKalhoon 18:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- Pyrokinesis in fiction is now open for business. Please move all discussion for fictional fire powers to that page and this can be about only the psi phenomenon. CKalhoon 14:51, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- THANK YOU!
- Why move the fiction material when there's almost no nonfiction material, though? Doczilla 07:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] pyrokineticist??
early in the article: "[pyrokinesis] is purported to be the postulated psi ability to manipulate a flame, or control it."
later in the article: "Pyro (comics) is not a pyrokineticist because although he can manipulate fire, he cannot create it."
consider changing one of these statements to accomodate the other. and oh yeah, i don't think i've heard the word 'pyrokineticist' before. maybe it's just me. 74.121.48.170 23:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Definition
I believe that "manipulating flames" was the definition of fictional pyrokinesis; the supposed "real" psi ability claims to be able to heat or burn objects. Anyone who knows anything about parapsychology, please give this article some help. Noclevername 21:26, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
Why not just merge this with Pryokinesis in Fiction? There are no cases of this in non-fiction. --CF90 23:51, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's an opinion, not a provable fact (I agree with you, but that's not relevant). This is an encyclopedia; all it should do is point out evidence for/against, not make blanket statements about controversial subjects. At present, this is barely an article, it's a placeholder for future information. Noclevername 23:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
- Merge - There's really not a reason to separate them. Neither article is large enough to justify being split. Anybody looking for instances of pyrokinesis in fiction is probably going to start by typing in pyrokinesis anyway, so naming conventions becomes a consideration - they state that the most common and least complicated should be used. CovenantD 07:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect Pyrokinesis in fiction into pyrokinesis per above. This article is just a dicdef as things stand, except for a link to the other, real article. --N Shar 23:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Should these really be there?
This is the list of articles in the "see Also" section of the article:
Shoudl any of these really be there? Because, it seems to me, that these have just been put there for no other reason than to create a "See Also" list for the article. --JB Adder | Talk 06:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- Agreed, three of them belong under the Pyr. in Fiction article and the other has no real connection to this article. I'm removing them. Noclevername 19:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Missed out cultural refrences
I havn't got a log in, can someone add these for me. Hellboy, theirs a girl in that who can use those powers. In X-men theirs a bloke who deals combustable cards. Also in super smash bros a computer game for the GC, their is a boy called ness who can use a move called PK fire a form of pyrokinesis. Also to a certain degree the marvel comics the fab 4 feturing the human torch also had pyro powers.
- You do't need to be logged in to edit; however, these items all belong in the Pyrokinesis in fiction article, not here. Noclevername 21:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Expert needed
I re-added the Expert tag after someone inexplicably deleted it. I tried to ref the tag to WikiProject Paranormal, but I can't figure out how to do that; can someone please help? Noclevername 18:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Did it! Yay! Noclevername 20:42, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
