Talk:Reinhard Gehlen

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Contents 1 I claim no expertise 2 New information released over the past several years 3 Other ops 4 Gehlen org 5 Nazis in the CIA 6 Nazi? 7 Odessa 8 Knights of Malta

[edit] I claim no expertise

but this assertion that "Operation Sunrise" successfully infiltrated some 5,000 anti-communists of Eastern European and Russian ancestry sounds a little suspect. 5,000 where? when? I had thought that most western intelligence operations in the early years were rolled up--although I get most of my information from John LeCarre novels, which I do not claim to be authoritative. --Italo Svevo 02:19, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My understanding, too, based on some limited reading on intelligence in the period; most of the Czechs (Ukranians?) were immediately rolled up, because the op had been compromised before it went in. The number seems a bit hi, but N excessive; most of the effort in that period seems to've been SOE-type guerrilla infils, aim to overthrow Com puppets, N intel ops as we understand them today. Trekphiler 14:59, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New information released over the past several years

Do a search in the U.S. National Archives & Records Administration on 'Reinhard Gehlen' where you will find a wealth of information: http://www.archives.gov/

[edit] Other ops

Gehlen is credited with Op Flamingo, letting Sov commissar named Minishki escape; he ended up on Stalin's staff as a hi-placed spy. This may have inspired Tom Clancy's Cardinal (Cardinal of the Kremlin) & may've led to the persistent myth the Germans fed the Sovs a dummy about senior officers, leading to the Great Purge. Trekphiler 15:06, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gehlen org

it is possible to beef up the GEHLEN org section, new documents have been released. Fluffy999 01:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nazis in the CIA

I'm re-adding a link to the article Nazis in the CIA under "see also". Please do not delete the link again without stating why, as it is very relevant to those wishing to find out more about this controversial yet historically relevant topic. Perhaps it could be added as a category if such a category existed but it doesn't, so the "see also" link shall suffice. Roidroid 06:44, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nazi?

"... a Nazi Major General..." Was he a member of the Nazi party? The German page simply describes him as a member of the Wehrmacht. Cavort 00:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

No, he wasn't. I'll remove this inadequte term.--217.85.122.141 17:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

He also wasn't a member of the SS, so the link to "SS members employed by CIA" is kind of detracting. --217.85.122.141 17:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Odessa

Can anybody give any solid sources on the (pretty wild, IMO) claim that Gehlen founded/ran ODESSA ? If not I'd suggest removing the claim from the article. Wefa 05:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Knights of Malta

I don't think the Knights of Malta membership is correctly categorized under "honors". The Knights of Malta are a religious, chartiable and hospitaller organization (and a sovereign entity of international law) independent of both state and church, and not a kind of honor degree granted by another entity. Wefa 18:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)