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[edit] Evidence presented by User:Tony Sidaway
This section is now ready for use.
The story of how interactions between Maoririder and the community deteriorated is a detailed one. I'll focus very closely on the first couple of days, and also on the circumstances surrounding the first two blocks.
I think that after August 3rd the rot had set in. Maoririder had been blocked twice at that point. There was a general perception that he was a disruptive editor.
I am providing edit-by-edit detail for the relevant periods so that it can be clearly seen that his edits were not disruptive at all, and that he was responsive and learned as he went along, often very quickly indeed. The articles he was creating around the time of the second block, while still stubs, were much more sophisticated than the earlier ones, and adopted our house style. It simply isn't true that Maoririder didn't take good advice and didn't make an effort to improve. The effort is visible by the excellent results.
He is also very polite, even when he is being browbeaten. Only after an RfC and an Arbitration nomination did he show anger, lashing out in an unacceptable manner (this is in the evidence provided by other editors).
[edit] First tranche: Maoririder's first day
My main observations here are that:
- Maoririder seemed to pick up the advice he received from User:Mairi. At first sight, it seems that he quickly read and absorbed the suggestions about use of stub templates. His last two edits use the correct template syntax and refer to valid stub templates.
- Maoririder is clearly acting in good faith and editing well within the bounds of competency expected of a newcomer. He uses talk pages appropriately, he signs his comments, he makes an effort to take advice promptly, and overall contributes good work.
- Lucky 6.9's comment on the short stubs being "tantamount to vandalism" is unclear. The names of the bugs are unusual; could Lucky have failed to check that the bugs in question exist, and assumed that this was some kind of prank? Otherwise there is no reason to suppose that these stubs, although extremely short, are anything other than good faith attempts to produce an article. The stub templates are used, as intended, to permit the stubs to be located for expansion and cleanup. The misunderstanding about how to name stubs is a typical newbie error.
[edit] User talk page events
- 18:14, 27 July 2005 Gblaz New user welcome
- 19:52, 27 July 2005 Mairi
- Many of the stub templates you're putting on articles don't exist; Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types has a complete listing of current stub types. Also, it would be better if you put more content into the article, so other users could more easily expand it (where the topic is from, what makes it notable, etc). --Mairi 19:52, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
- 19:59, 27 July 2005 Lucky 6.9
- Those "bloody-nosed beetle" and "big-eyed bug" nanostubs are tantamount to vandalism. If you'd like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thanks. - Lucky 6.9 19:59, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Edits of articles
- Postcards from Buster 18:09, 27 July 2005 Add empty Trivia section
- Postcards from Buster 18:09, 27 July 2005 Add content to Trivia section
- Talk:Arthur (TV series) 18:09, 27 July 2005 Query about a character's name
- Arthur (TV series) 18:14-18:18, 27 July 2005 Four edits adding details about characters
- Talk:Arthur (TV series) 18:19, 27 July 2005 Further query about characters
- Alien Racers 18:20, 27 July 2005 Creates basic TV series stub. Correct stub template used. Gives age range of the viewers, and subject.
- D'Angelo Sandwich Shops 18:25 27 July 2005 Creates stub about chain of "sub" shops. Incorrect template used: restuarant-stub
- Darcy's Wild Life 18:27 27 July 2005 Corrects capitalization in name of article
- Endurance Hawaii 18:28 27 July 2005 Good wikification of this article, adds correct stub.
- Wikipedia:Requested_moves 18:29 27 July 2005 Readable, usable, though incorrectly formatted request to move an article. No rationale given but the rationale is obvious--conform with naming conventions.
- Wikipedia:Requested_moves 18:30, 27 July 2005 Fixed bad link in request.
- D'Angelo Sandwich Shops 18:31, 27 July 2005 Improves wording
- Mission Accomplished 18:33 27 July 2005 New stub: "President George W. Bush said "Mission Accomplished" when the war in Iraq was supposed to be over." Bad template: Presidential-saying stub
- Between the Lions Revision as of 18:39, 27 July 2005 Adds "Characters" section
- Titus Software 18:42, 27 July 2005 Wikifies some game names
- Keep Fishin' 18:51, 27 July 2005 Adds detail
- February One: The Story of the Greensboro Four 19:00, 27 July 2005 New stub containing basic production details and sketchy broadcast details about a movie shown on PBS. The movie is in imdb
- Thunder in Guyana 19:04, 27 July 2005 New stub containing basic production details about a movie. Movie is in imdb
- Thunder in Guyana 19:05, 27 July 2005 Sketchy broadcast details of movie
- Nature (television) 19:11, 27 July 2005 New section giving list of documentaries
- Ban -ei 19:13, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of horse." Incorrect template: horse-stub
- Baja California Rat Snake 19:14, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of snake". Incorrect template: snake-stub
- Center (American football) 19:16, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of position in football." Incorrect template: Football-position-stub.
- Rodney Peete 19:17, 27 July 2005 New stub: "He is a quarterback". Incorrect stub template: footballbio-stub
- Talk:Pizza 19:22, 27 July 2005 Comment that the cartoon picture of Goofy with pizzas "seems out of place" in the article.
- Lady Finger (cookie) 19:28, 27 July 2005 Adds item of trivia.
- Carter's ink 19:35, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It was a company that made Mark-A-Lot". Incorrect stub: corporation-stub
- Talk:Caillou 19:42, 27 July 2005 Query about whether program had been cancelled
- Caillou 19:45, 27 July 2005 New section with list of characters
- Big-eyed bug 19:54 , 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of bug". Incorrect template: bug-stub.
- Bloody-nosed Beetle 19:55, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of beetle". Correct stub template used.
- Lily Beetle 19:57, 27 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of beetle and it is red". Correct stub template used.
[edit] Deleted stubs
- 20:09, 27 July 2005 Sango123 deleted "Big-eyed bug" (content was: '{{db|subsubstub}}It is a type of bug.{{bug-stub}}')
- 19:51, 27 July 2005 Jinian deleted "Talk:Mission Accomplished" (content was: '== Disagree ==People should vote on this. "Mission Accomplished" was said by President George W. Bush when everyone thought the war in Iraq was over....' (and the only contributor was 'Maoririder'))
- 19:52, 27 July 2005 Jinian deleted "Mission Accomplished" (content was: '{{d}}President George W. Bush said "Mission Accomplished" when the war in Iraq was supposed to be over.Template:Presidential-saying stub')
[edit] Second tranche: Maoririder's second day
- Personal aside: how many people you know have heard of a Briquet Griffon Vendéen? Can it be truthfully claimed that an article which names the animal and describes it as a dog (rather than a squirrel, a maneuver in ice dancing, or a chess opening) is at all useless? It has since been expanded and merged with an article about another Griffon Vandeen breed.
- Maoririder here continues to employ reasonable though not always perfect, choice of stub templates, shows good style choices, and creates many new stub articles, all of which appear valuable to Wikipedia, albeit usually somewhat short and not observing all style conventions. He usually makes appropriate use of the "minor" edit flag. Good progress.
- Maoririder makes reasonable attempts at communication using his user talk page, and at one point, responding to a communication incorrectly placed on his user page.
- Maoririder's temperament appears to be well suited to the Wikipedia environment. There are no breaches of wikiquette. He is polite and appreciative.
[edit] User talk page events
- 16:24, 28 July 2005 Maoririder Explains that the bugs do exist.
- The bloody-nosed beetle and the big-eyed bug are real that I know of. The bloody-nosed beetle there is information on but the bug-eyed bug only has a picture that I know of. Sorry for problems. --Maoririder 16:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
- 16:24, 28 July 2005 Maoririder Requests explanation of jargon
- What is a nanostub? --Maoririder 16:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
- 16:54, 28 July 2005 OpenToppedBus Explains jargon
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- We welcome your contributions, but I think the suggestion is that some of the articles you have created are simply too small to be of any use. For example, your article on the Briquet Griffon Vendéen, which previously just said "It is a dog". Have a look at how I have expanded that - most Wikipedians would probably agree that you need more than just a single sentence (and certainly more than just four words) for an article to be worth creating at all. OpenToppedBus - My Talk 16:54, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
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- 16:55, 28 July 2005 Maoririder gives thanks for explanation
- Thank you I will look into finding more information and writing more thank you OpenToppedBus. --Maoririder 16:55, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
- (placed on User:Maoririder) 17:21, 28 July 2005 CBDroege
- It's great that you want to creat articles for us, and the occasional stub is tollerated, but I have seen you create many stubs today. Please realise that stubs are not a good thing, and it is not really appropriate to create stubs. 'Stub' is a tag that we add to articles by new user who don't know not to create small articles. If you want to add information to wikipedia, please research, and write a nicely filled out article. Thanks. -CBDroege
- (reply on User:Maoririder) 17:22, 28 July 2005 Maoririder
- Don't worry I'am trying that. Thank you. --Maoririder 17:22, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Edits of articles
- Briquet Griffon Vendeen 16:39, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of dog." Correct stub template used.
- Byelorussian harness 16:42, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of horse." Correct stub template used.
- Popeye Jones 16:46, 28 July 2005 New stub: "He is a basketball player. He played with the Boston Celtics". Well wikified, appropriate stub template.
- Template:basketballbio-stub 16:47, 28 July 2005 Reasonable first attempt to create a stub template.
- Darcy's Wild Life 16:48, 28 July 2005 Revisits article he created previous day and performs quite skilful wikification. Wikilinks only the words veterinary and Hollywood, passing over many tempting but less useful candidate links.
- Grand Griffon Vendéen 16:52, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of dog." Correct stub template used.
- Wind music 16:54, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a type of music". Good stub template.
- Barlow Girl 16:58, 28 July 2005 New stub: "Barlow Girl is a religious musical group." Correct stub template used. Wikilink on religious. Style is good, if terse--he's starting to give the name of the article in the description, though he hasn't yet learned to bold it. But these are well written stubs that anybody with access to Google could expand. Excellent work for someone on his second day. Better than anything I did in the first week, and with a much, much broader scope.
- Skull Rock 17:02, 28 July 2005 Huge leap forward. Approximately seventy words giving plot outline of an episode in a children's TV series. Reasonable choice of stub template, though could be better. Usual tasteful use of wikilinking.
- Mulan 2 17:08, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is the sequel to Mulan". Correct stub template. Mulan wikilinked.
- Orangeade 17:09, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It has a orange flavor and is similar to Lemonade and Limeade". Well wikified, appropriate choice of stub template.
- Miami Blues 17:11, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a film which stars Alec Baldwin". Well wikified, appropriate choice of stub template.
- Miami Blues 17:11, 28 July 2005 Adds empty plot section and cast section containing the Alec Baldwin part.
- Harold Snoad 17:15, 28 July 2005 New stub: "The creator of Keeping Up Appearances". Usual good style choices, but still neglecting name of article.
- Shirley Stelfox 17:16, 28 July 2005 New stub: "She played the first Rose on Keeping Up Appearances." Good wikification, good stub template
- Shirley Stelfox 17:17, 28 July 2005 Notes name of actress's replacement.
- Shirley Stelfox 17:21, 28 July 2005 Corrects typo introduced by Scimitar.
- Harold Snoad 17:24, 28 July 2005 Places correct imdb link into correctly created "External links" section.
- On the Up 17:30, 28 July 2005 Good stub about UK drama. Good synopsis and cast list. Title appears in opening sentence, but not bolded. Good stub template. Good wikilinking.
- On the Up 17:32, 28 July 2005 Corrects two wikilinking errors.
- Sam Kelly 17:33, 28 July 2005 New stub. Good brief summary of actor's main role. Appropriate choice of stub template. Good progress.
- 17:33, 28 July 2005 Fix typo.
- Sam Kelly 17:35, 28 July 2005 Add biographical details.
- Mulan 2 17:37, 28 July 2005 Adds production details and cast.
- Jenna Russell 17:40, 28 July 2005 New stub. Two significant career details about a British actress. Flubs the stub template.
- Judy Buxton 17:44, 28 July 2005 Casting and biographical information about a British actress. Flubs the stub template.
- Brat Camp 17:45, 28 July 2005 Adds more cast details to an infobox about a reality TV show
- Michelle Hatch 17:47, 28 July 2005 New stub: "She is a actress and she played Dawn on the british drama On The Up." Reasonable choice of stub template. Not s good wikification (Dawn) Typical newbie error.
- Grinnel Lake 17:51, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a trail.". Generic stub template. One of his worst. Nevertheless Google on Grinnel-lake trail returns plenty of good results, so a decent stub.
- Little Redfish Lake 17:54, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a lake that was named for the red-scaled salmon that returned there every year to spawn." Excellent stuff, intriguing stub. Plenty of good sources for expanding this. Generic stub template, alas.
- Warwick School District 17:59, 28 July 2005 New stub and one of his best to date:
- It is located in Lititz, Pennsylvania. It has a superindendent, assistant superindendent, and a business manager. It has many schools including, Warwick High School, Warwick Middle School, John Beck Elementary School, John Bonfield Elementary School, Kissel Hill Elementary School, and Lititz Elementary School.
- Uses correct stub template. Well wikilinked. Excellent work.
- Wailua Falls 18:01, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a 80 foot waterfall located in Hawaii." Well wikified. Incorrect choice of stub template "United-states stub"
- Brunei Bay 18:04, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is the gateway to Brunei and Borneo". Well wikified. Incorrect stub template: Bay-stub
- Purvis Bay 18:06, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is in the Solomon Islands". Generic stub template.
- Dennisoport, Massachusetts 18:11, 28 July 2005 New stub: "It is a city in Massachusetts. It is on Cape Cod, Massachusetts." Well wikified. Bad stub template: city-stub
[edit] Deleted stubs
- 17:40, 28 July 2005 Deb deleted "Wind music" (content was: 'It is a type of music.{{music-stub}}' (and the only contributor was 'Maoririder'))
[edit] Third tranche: Blocks applied to Maoririder
This tranche contains a list of all blocks applied to Maoririder's account, and to all suspected Maoririder sock puppets/second and third accounts.
There is a detailed analysis of the first two blocks. As well as analyzing the circumstances of the blocks, this section also can be used as a reference to show how Maoririder's editing style had matured greatly over the course of the week he had spent on Wikipedia. He had by this time more or less fully mastered our house style, and his stubs tended to contain more useful information. The "it is a type of dog"-style stubs are now rare.
[edit] Main account blocks
- 19:26, 2 August 2005 Ike9898 (talk • contribs) blocked "User:Maoririder" with an expiry time of 8 hours (Very large volume of very low quality contributions - many benevolent users have tried to help Mao learn Wikipedia conventions with little apparent effect; user welcome back after a short break; hopefully he will become a valuable contributor in near futu)
- 19:25, 3 August 2005 Ike9898 blocked "User:Maoririder" with an expiry time of 16 hours (2nd short block of a disruptive user; twice as long as last time; hopefully during this break he will re-read some of the helpful advice that has been posted on his user:talk page)
- 06:18, 21 August 2005 Lucky 6.9 (talk • contribs) blocked "User:Maoririder" with an expiry time of 48 hours (Strongly suspected of creating sockpuppet named "Inquisitor911.")
- 19:04, 21 August 2005 Lucky 6.9 unblocked User:Maoririder (Unblocked possible sockpuppet; figured it's only fair to unblock this one too)
- 20:06, 7 October 2005 Lucky 6.9 blocked "User:Maoririder" with an expiry time of 2 months (Vicious personal attack, incredibly disruptive sockpuppets, continued poor behavior even during the course of ArbCom proceedings.)
- 20:08, 7 October 2005 Lucky 6.9 unblocked User:Maoririder (Increasing block to three months)
- 20:09, 7 October 2005 Lucky 6.9 blocked "User:Maoririder" with an expiry time of 3 months (Continued rants, personal attacks.)
- 20:47, 7 October 2005 Lucky 6.9 unblocked User:Maoririder (An ArbCom hearing is currently underway for this user.)
[edit] The first block: 2 Aug, 2005
- Summary: The first account block against Maoririder was carried out for vaguely defined, poorly discussed reasons, was not very widely discussed before and was not made public and widely reviewed afterwards. There was a token five-minute warning, Maoririder had not edited for around half an hour beforehand and hadn't been engaging in any problematic behavior either at the time of the block or for some appreciable time before.
- Timestamp: 19:26, 2 August 2005
- Administrator: Ike9898 (talk • contribs)
- Duration: 8 hrs
- Comment: "Very large volume of very low quality contributions - many benevolent users have tried to help Mao learn Wikipedia conventions with little apparent effect; user welcome back after a short break; hopefully he will become a valuable contributor in near futu"
- Steps taken prior to blocking:
- Several edits on User talk:Maoririder in which he claimed that the number of stubs being created was a problem for Wikipedia. [2] [3] [4] .
- Edit on User talk:Scimitar in which he said "I am sort of interested in placing a 8 hour block on him, just to emphasize that the Wikipedia community is serious about the guidelines he's breaking. However, I'm not sure that this is considered a legit reason for a block.... any opinion on the use of a block in this case?" (19:13, 2 August 2005)
- Reply by Scimitar was "If he's properly warned than I don't think it will be an issue. --Scimitar parley 19:19, 2 August 2005 (UTC)"
- The blocking admin had also told Soltak of his plan; the latter also approved. So he did consult rather than take unilateral action.
- Warnings of impending block: Scimitar posted a warning five minutes beforehand
- What Maoririder was doing prior to the blocking:
- 18:55: Adding an external link to Cloverhill Bakery
- 18:57: Supplying a source reference for the Cloverhill Bakery on AfD discussion page
- 18:58: Putting an "expand" request on Talk:Movie Gallery
- 18:59: Putting an "expand" request on Talk:Jason Frasor
- 19:01/2: Making reasonable suggestions on his talk page for resolving the perceived problem
- Thus for some appreciable time prior to being blocked, Maoririder was editing well and was not engaging in any of the behavior being complained of, let alone being disruptive or breaking any guidelines.
- What Maoririder did after being blocked:
- Polite message to blocking admin, 15:01 the following day.
- Attempts to get review of block on WP:AN of WP:ANI: none found. However at least one other editor involved with Maoririder approved of the block after the event, so it was subject to some review.
- Avowed purpose of block: enforcement of unspecified guidelines. Presumably the rationale was that failure to follow guidelines was disruptive.
[edit] The second block: 3 Aug, 2005
- Summary: The second account block was a virtual carbon copy of the first, except this time with no warning at all, and for twice the blocking period. The blocking administrator had put messages on User talk:Maoririder that day but none of them had suggested that anything was amiss.
- Timestamp: 19:25, 3 August 2005
- Administrator: Ike9898 (talk • contribs)
- Duration: 16 hrs
- Comment: "2nd short block of a disruptive user; twice as long as last time; hopefully during this break he will re-read some of the helpful advice that has been posted on his user:talk page"
- Steps taken prior to blocking: None This was just a repeat prescription.
- What Maoririder was doing prior to the blocking:
- 18:00: Format edit to Westbrook School
- 18:01: Format edit to Westbrook School
- 18:03: Create new stub: Good school stub with external link to school website, appropriate stub template. Bolded school title as per Wikipedia standards.
- 18:04: Talk page reply, trying to reason with Soltak
- 18:06: Adds expand tag to Talk:Westbrook High School
- 18:07: Continues trying to reason politely with Soltak, who puzzlingly claims that everything Maoririder has written about in Portland, Maine is not acceptable for Wikipedia (Maoririder's Portland High School was certainly acceptable--I expanded it myself)
- 18:11: Creates new stub: Excellent formatting, well wikified, plenty of context in a brief stub. Let down slightly by generic stub template.
- 18:11: Reacts with polite dismay when Soltak tells him he has nominated the Tukey's Bridge article for deletion.
- 18:13: Votes keep on Tukey's Bridge AfD
- 18:15: Puts expansion request on Talk:Million Dollar Bridge (Maine)
- 18:16: Puts expansion request on Talk:James B. Gibson
- 18:17: Replies further to Soltak on Tukey's Bridge AfD
- 18:20: Polite reply to a comment by Soltak on templates
- 18:21: Puts expansion tag on Talk:Woodstock Elementary School
- 18:22: Puts plea for help on [[Wikipedia:Requests for expansion]
- 18:23: Polite reply to finger-wagging about stubs by Scimitar.
- 18:24: Puts a suggestion for merge on Talk:Articles for deletion/King Middle School (the article was expanded and kept)
- 18:27: Slightly sarcastic reply to words of praise by Soltak--perhaps thinks he is being patronized
- 18:29: Query about whether to put expansion template on article or talk
- 18:30: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/King_Middle_School&diff=prev&oldid=20205234 Reply asking for help to Soltak who claimed the King Middle School article was not an article and therefore could not be merged.
- 18:32: Reply to Soltak about expansion
- 18:34: Discussion of notability of King Middle School with Soltak
- 18:35: Reply to Soltak who claims his articles won't be expanded if they don't contain enough interesting information
- 18:37: eply to Soltak who is of the opinion that an article about the Schools of Portland, Maine wouldn't be encyclopedic.
- 18:38: Proud boast about a quite good school stub he has written: "Why can't all the schools be like this? Or something like this?"
- 18:44: Says "Big sorry everyone. I'am dropping out for a bit looking to add on hopefully."
- 18:48: uts inclusionist counter-argument to Soltak who at this stage believes that the King Middle School article is very likely to be deleted.
- 18:51: Complains about the rash of VfDs of his articles.
- 18:53: Seems to get a little pissed at Soltak's arguments on schools
- 18:56: Puts an expansion template on Talk:Sarah Durkee
- 18:56: Puts an expansion template on Talk:Mulan 2
- 18:58: Adds empty plot section to Mulan 2
- So at the time he was blocked, Maorrider hadn't been editing for nearly half an hour and wasn't engaged in any disruptive behavior.
- What Maoririder did after being blocked:
- Created a rather lovely stub about Perry's Ice Cream, at 13:42 on 5th (two days later).
- Attempts to get review of block on WP:AN of WP:ANI: none found
- Avowed purpose of block: Deal with disruption (there doesn't seem to have been any disruptive behavior at the time of the block).
[edit] Suspected sock puppet account blocks
- 19:01, 21 August 2005 Lucky 6.9 unblocked User:Inquisitor911 (User insists he is not a sockpuppet; giving the benefit of the doubt.)
- 06:15, 21 August 2005 Lucky 6.9 blocked "User:Inquisitor911" with an expiry time of 48 hours (Suspected sockpuppet of Maoririder, currently on an as-yet-unanswered RfC)
- 19:59, 7 October 2005 Lucky 6.9 blocked "User:Sandove89" with an expiry time of indefinite (Sockpuppet of User:Maoririder which has left a HUGE mess in its wake.)
[edit] Fourth tranche: Validity of stubs
I want to address this issue head-on. Is Maorider producing work deleterious to Wikipedia? Is his output disruptive?
Wikipedia:Stub says a stub "is an article which is clearly too short, but not so short as to be useless. In general, it must be long enough to at least define the article's title."
I have my reservations about the sentence that follows: "This generally means 3 to 10 short sentences." This is patently false. A stub that said "Ford Cortina was the English name for a car produced by Ford from about 1962-1982" isn't anywhere near three sentences but is still reasonably useful. It would be nice to add that its German equivalent was the Taunus, it was a mid-range saloon with an estate car variant, and sold in absolutely stupid quantities. But defining the subject is the hard part.
So here are the latest stubs created 13 October, 2005 by Bluejays2006 (talk • contribs)
- Bradburn
- "is a ghost town in canada."
- Skillin Elementary School
- "is a elementary school in south portland, maine."
- Dyer Elementary School
- "is a elementary school in dyer, nevada. It is K-8. It is a public school. It has 44 enrolled. It is on highway 264. It is in Esmeralda County. It's phone number is (775) 572-3250. It is a part of the Esmeralda County School District."
- Cosby Elementary School
- "is a elementary school in cosby, tennesee. It is on 3320 cosby highway. The principal is Manney Moore. It is near Great Smoky Mountains National Park. It is in Cocke County. They are the Cosby Eagles. It is now a elementary school and a high school. It has a key club, beta club, spanish club, ffa, and a student council."
- Diamond Jim
- "was a famous midget wrestler."
- Midget wrestler
- "is a midget or a small person that is in the professional wrestling business."
- Lord Littlebrook
- "is a famous midget wrestler from england. He was big in the 1970s. He held the World Midget Title."
- Wolf Hole, Arizona
- "is a ghost town in arizona. It is in mohave county. There are some foundations and a house."
- Reymert
- "is a ghost town in arizona. There is nothing left. A bulldoze company bulldozed it to nothing. It is in pinal county."
- Flagstaff maine
- "is a ghost town in maine."
- Bahman group company
- Castle of Mesen
- Mail order wife
The above are the initial drafts. In some cases, the author went back and fixed errors, in other cases some other editor did so.
At least two of them, two of the school articles, I can say are quite high quality compared to many school stubs that get listed for deletion. These articles are routinely expanded and, these days, seldom get deleted.
The Castle of Mesen article contains some unencyclopedic detail (Maoririder apparently saw the website on the net that shows an unfortunate pigeon that had been tortured and killed by humans). Nevertheless the stub does identity the location of the castle (Lede, Belgium).
Mail Order Wife actually came out in March and, showing in only five theaters, took about $60,000. But it's on imdb and boxofficemojo and even on rottentomatoes.com (where it just squeaked a "fresh" 61% on the tomatometer, an aggregation of all reviews).
The ghost town articles are intriguing. I was curious to see if I could expand Bradburn. It was easy enough to find a reference and expand it adequately. Possibly these stubs would be better off in a table in a larger article, as often there's nothing much known about their history.
But I don't think any of the above could be described as disruptive or damaging in any way. Welcome additions, only hope he'll get back to fixing the style problems.
[edit] Response to Comment Above
Can be found here. Karmafist 21:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
- I removed the section containing the comment, and apologised and struck out offensive comments on the main project page for this RfAr. Again I apologise for my incivility. --Tony SidawayTalk 11:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Evidence presented by User:Scimitar
I would like to note that evidence here presented is only about articles that have survived in some form, and doesn't include the many that were deleted.
[edit] October 13
- [5] a stub typical in terms of style, subject and content of early Maoririder- in my opinion showing a refusal to adjust/progress
And from suspected sockpuppet Bluejays2006:
[edit] October 7
- [19], [20] makes personal attacks on Lucky 6.9 and then
- [21] in my opinion tries to conceal it, acting as if there never was a personal attack
Possibly because of this:
- [23] personal attack?
Also, from possible sockpuppet Sandove89:
[edit] October 6
More micro-stubs from sockpuppet Sandove89
[edit] October 5
- Spare Change (food) (another nano-stub with bad formatting on his first day back since the arbitration started)
[edit] August 19
- [49] - one of his better article starts
- [50] - nano-stub
- [51] - nanostub
- [52] - a possibly non-notable teacher nano-stub
[edit] August 16
- [53] - nano-stub
- [54] - vfd record on one of Maoririder's articles
- [55] - nano-stub
- [56] - nano-stub
- [57] - misuse of vfd
- [58] - non-notable nano-stub changed to a redirect
- [59] - nano-stub changed to a redirect
[edit] August 9
- [60] - redirected redundant nano-stub
- [61] - nano-stub
- [62] - redirected incorrectly spelled nano-stub
- [63] - nano-stub, now a redirect
- [64] - nano-stub
- [65] - nano-stub
[edit] Evidence presented by User:Satori
[edit] 15 Nov
- [66] Shortest women created. Content: == Shortest woman in the world == * * * == Other short women == * Please no scandless pictures of women. {{expand}}
[edit] 19 Aug
[edit] 16 Aug
- [68] - Pill sucking article created by Maoririder, and tagged by him for {{attention}} and {{delete}}, which was speedy deleted.
- [69] - The Thomas Room substub created by Maoririder, and tagged by him for {{expand}} and {{wikify}}, which was speedy deleted.
[edit] Riverofdreams (possible sockpuppet)
- Evidence that Riverofdreams is Maoririder:
- Unusual edits to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous by Riverofdreams:
- [74] - adds a new topic, with just an {{expand}} tag.
- [75] - asks for the "sickest picture on earth"
- [76] - places a {{disputed}} tag in response to odd question by anonymous editor 130.111.96.164. (Note: this IP address resolves to Portland, Maine, which is an area of interest of Maoririder, so he may well be replying to his own edits).
[edit] Cursa (possible sockpuppet)
- Evidence that Cursa is Maoririder:
- [77] - Maoririder says so.
- Unusual edits to Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous by Riverofdreams:
