Talk:Robert Chase
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[edit] Cameron on Drugs?
By the way, Chase also did have sex with Cameron when she was high (on pot?) - that probably has something to say about his personality. I mean, at least Cameron has an excuse...
What was Cameron's excuse? She had like 0% percent chance of getting HIV. Instead of taking up his offer to get a drink to get her mind off things, she refused. Instead, she STOLE drugs from the hospital, got high, called him under false pretenses, then cornered him and started making out with him. By the third time he told her to stop and think, she already had his shirt and jacket off. While they BOTH acted stupidly, it wouldn't be right to paint him a villain in this scenario. Waapplepie 02:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
If someone could find out which episode that was in and insert it in the article? Thanks.
- POT YOU FOOL!!! Learn your drugs
- Cameron was never on pot. She was just high ^_^. J/K, she was on LSD borrowed from a patient. It was in episode 2-29, Hunting. OrtonFan2006 07:00, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- The patient admitted to taking crystal meth and ecstasy. Later in the episode, when Chase offers the noticably off-colour Cameron some Ativan, she asks "why are you so calm?" to which Chase replies "not coming off meth helps."
- By-the-bye, pot would really only explain Cameron's euphoria (but not the increased sexual urge or comedown), while the cognitive, sensory and hallucinogenic effects of LSD would not really explain anything. MrAngy 12:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
She was high on ecstasy. She might also have been high on meth, but it was definently x that Chase noticed. The gay guy had meth and ecstasy. Meth wouldn't have made her call up a coworker to have sex with, but x would.
Meth actually would make her want to call someone up for sex. Meth increases your sexual arousal and sexual stamina, that's what meth is famous for; wild and crazy hot meth-sex.Waapplepie 02:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chase and House
This article casts their relationship into a really harsh light. House does call Chase an idiot, but not to any notable extent. He never goes out of his way to do it. I'm rewording this.
[edit] What?
the Season 2 episode "The Mistake", in which House takes extraordinary measures to defend Chase and see that he doesn't get fired.
Seriously, what? When was this? Cause in the episode I watched, Stacy actually had to hunt House down to talk about what happened, and even then he did just what would be expected, nothing terribly out of his way, he didn't seem particularly worried or antsy about it. While he did talk to the medical board about the incident, because he's Chase's boss, and he had to. I am deleting this until it is explained.
[edit] Characterization
I would like to address some characterization issues I have with this article. Namely the descriptors ambitious and amoral. I suppose an argument could be made that Chase acted amorally with Vogler, but this was in exactly four episodes out of forty-six (Vogler was in five, but wasn't until his second that Chase's betrayal came into play). For forty-two episodes, when we've seen Chase step out of line? There's almost always some prompting from House -- not that Chase puts up much of a fight, but amoral certainly doesn't seem to be something he's naturally inclined to, and not at all a trait his character is so entrenched with that it should be one of the only three in his wiki.
Secondly, ambitious, which I'm guess is again coming from the Vogler episodes? As the rest of the time Chase is shown to be rather lethargic. I argue that Chase wasn't fighting to get ahead in those episodes -- he was simply fighting to remain working with House. He wasn't trying to work the situation to his advantage, or trying to come out on top, or anything else overtly ambitious, he was just trying to not be kicked out. This doesn't strike me as ambitious as much as . . . wanting to stay.
The bit about it has implied he has become religious is a bit odd, considering the fact that it was blatantly stated that Chase was going to become a priest before going to med school. I feel the bit saying he is getting interested in his religion again and that is why he's no longer amoral is just ridiculous. It was somewhat obvious that Chase was doing what he needed to do to stay working with House, and now that that is no longer an issue, he is simply acting as he normally would. How could he even stir shit up at this point? Start poisoning the patients? What?
Anyway, I feel the entire first paragraph needs to be completely redone, it's obvious tons of hands have touched it, and it's all over the place. If no one objects, I will do so. And am doing so. And have done it. : P
[edit] Suspect diff
This diff caught my eye but I know absolutely nothing about the subject. Anyone care to take a look? Suede 15:29, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
Query on age. Article says Chase is 26, but there is an episode where he claims to a young cancer patient to be thirty. ("You're 9. I'm 30.")
- It can be assumed that Chase rounded up his age to make himself seem less obtainable to Andi. This is supported by the fact that they used Hugh Laurie's actual birthdate for House's. I would suspect the rest of the characters are the same.
[edit] moral classification and BDSM
This paragraph:
In one episode Chase reveals to a patient that he attended a seminary school, quoting 1 Peter 1:7. This aspect of his life was shown again in the episode Forever (2.22), when he said a prayer for the soul of a baby he failed to save. Although, Chase might not be overly moralistic, with one example being when he willingly had sex with his coworker, Allison Cameron, while she was high on methamphetamine. This is further compounded by the fact that he knew that she might have been infected with HIV (which had led to the drug use), but still slept with her. He admits to having done drugs before in the episode "Poison." It has also been alluded to that he has been into BDSM in the past. ( Love Hurts 1.20)
implies that people who practice BDSM "might not be overly moralistic", i.e. may be less moral than others based solely upon the fact that they practice BDSM. Source? In my opinion it's POV and should be removed, what do other people think?. Sdr 18:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- BDSM with a person who is not your spouse is considered immoral from a Roman Catholic perspective. (Within marriage it's not really good either, but things are a bit murkier there. I don't know of a set position the Church has on it within marriage, but basically I'd gather it'd be wrong if the spouses are not truly in mutual agreement on doing it or if it involves non-procreative acts) As he was going to be a priest I think it's fair to say BDSM is an example of how he rejects the moral views he once held. Just as his being snippy with the one nun and engaging in generalized casual sex does.--T. Anthony 15:42, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Really? I think its completely unfair to say he's amoral because he MIGHT have practiced BDSM and had practiced sex outside marraige. You can be catholic and not believe in everything the church believes in, so its ridiculous to say you know what moral views he held before. There are many, many, many people who are devout in their faith, but find exceptions in what their Church feels is right or wrong.Waapplepie 02:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chase and obesity
It's been indicated in a few episodes that Chase is pretty negative on obese people. Part of that seemed to be a bit about Anti-Americanism, you Americans yotta yotta, and part something else. Was this mentioned? Because it states he's most concerned with kids, but from what I remember he was fairly insulting of child patients if they're fat.--T. Anthony 15:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if "insulted" is the correct word here. Chase did not directly insult the girl (i.e. calling her names or mocking her), he talked of obesity in general. In response to Dr. Foreman asking him if he has read the recent articles pertaining to obesity in America, his actual words were, "Yes, I have. What I haven't seen is a child eating an apple or riding a bike. You Americans can't even compete the rest of the world in basketball anymore, unless, of course, its the kind you play with a remote control on a big screen tv." Aside from saying the patient might be fat because, "She can't stop shoveling food down her throat," he didn't insult her. Ironically, it was Chase who led House to the conclusion the girl had Cushing's, proposing her obesity was a symptom (her obesity turned out to be caused by stunted growth). Waapplepie 09:47, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Stealth Disco
When did stealth Disco ever come up in House?
"However, by Season 2 the incident seems to have been put behind all members of the Department of Diagnostic Medicine, and is not referenced again until mid-Season 3, where we also learn that Chase is a huge fan of stealth disco."
Seriously.... Wtf? --Watchreader 17:18, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, I'll take that out. -71.107.7.249 05:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Drug Use
He admits to having done drugs before in the episode "Poison."
Chase never admitted to using drugs. When House told Chase the mother of the patient no longer wanted Chase caring for her son, citing that Chase admitted doing drugs, Chase denied this as fact, saying he was only trying to make the patient more comfortable in order to get information.
This is actually a consistant action of Chase's. According to Foreman, Chase often tells a story about getting his tonsils removed, getting to eat a lot of ice cream, and loving the hospital environment so much it made him want to become a doctor. This, according to Foreman, is completely untrue as Chase still has his tonsils; this story is told only to make the patient less anxious and scared. It is a trend that we usually only hear of Chase's past or personal life when he reveals the details to a patient in order to form a connection and gain their trust (e.g. revealing his past in the seminary to the nun in Damned If You Do, talking with Kayla in The Mistake about their alcoholic parents).Waapplepie 09:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Is intensive care a common practice where Chase is from?
(LadySatine 08:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC))
Yes, Intensive Care is a well established practice in Australia. Waapplepie 06:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mini House?
I quote:
Chase has been called by some a "Mini-House", for various reasons, mostly because they look so much alike
I don't see a resemblance - is this a joke?
[edit] Some Changes
I made some revisions on this article but they were changed back, so I will take it step by step and then whoever has a problem with it can maybe explain to me why I am wrong.
I revised this
Chase has been called by some a "Mini-House", for various reasons, though they don't look alike. Adding to the similarities between him and his boss, Chase often suggests unconventional treatments before the others. Chase is also often the only one to show amusement at his boss's cruel jokes. Perhaps most tellingly, in seasons 1 and 3, Chase seems to be "sucking up" to House on a regular basis, earning him the ire of his co-workers.
to read this
In the differential diagnosis that takes place in every show, Chase's suggestions almost always tie into something the patient of the week has done to themselves, usually due to drugs or risky behavior. It could be argued this is driven by his own past experiences with self destructive behavior, a want to please House, or a combination of both. Chase is often the only one to show amusement at his boss's callous jokes.
Because Mini-House is not a nickname referred to in any notable branch of canon or fanon and there was only one reason given for why they are alike. In fact, while parallels between Foreman and House are drawn constantly, and even once or twice for Cameron, there has no mention that Chase is similar to House in any outstanding way. It is not fit for an article that is supposed to be unbiased in any case.
Also, "most tellingly" that Chase is sucking up to House? In what way does that make him like House? House sucks up to who? When? You cannot have these two concepts existing in the same paragraph.
I changed the unconventional treatments bit, because they rarely suggest treatments at all. The mystery of the show lies in WHAT the PoTW has, once that's figured out there's an intimidate understanding for each doctor about what the treatment will be. There have been a handful of episodes were unusual treatment has been called for because of a complication with the patient. I believe "diagnosis" is what you were looking for, and unconventional is a bizarre descriptor for a diagnosis. Unusual works better in my opinion, but please, I'd love to pick bones about this. I also added the bit about him almost always looking at the PotW's activities or drug usage for causes because that's what he does. If you have a problem with this, I would be glad to come up with some examples, but because I know this is going to be quite long, I'll keep this brief for now.
I changed cruel to callous because House is actually rarely cruel. Cruel implies a want to give others pain, whereas House doesn't really care if he gives pain, he just wants his answers and sometimes people get hurt along the way, and he enjoys being funny. His remarks are offhand and callous, I wouldn't say cruel, and by saying Chase is amused by his cruel comments puts a darker spin on both of the characters I don't think is supposed to be there in the show. Again, I would love to debate on this.
NOW, Chase mainly seems to want House's respect, but House rarely affords anyone that. I removed because again, this is supposed to be unbiased and that is a line more fit for a fanfic. While I agree that Chase does want House's respect, at the very least that second part should be changed since it's very easily argued that House respects several people (Foreman, Wilson, Cameron, Cuddy and I think Chase on some degree), and, more importantly, this is not a wiki on Gregory House.
The third paragraph I edited because I felt was too wordy and did a poor job of explaining the Tritter incident. I don't feel any important information was taken out, but again, all ears over here.
Anymore is one word. Wilson responds quickly by making a deal with Tritter himself, averting a possible harsher sentence for House. This is not a wiki on Wilson. If this is to be included at all I think something should be added about Wilson and Chase's relationship, perhaps adding at the end of that, "even though Chase and Wilson don't seem to have been brought any closer after this incident" or "Even though Chase seemed to be unaware of this." Just, something that ties it into Chase.
He eventually gives in and gives her a peck on the lips. House soon deduces this has happened and exposes Chase in front of Cameron and Foreman, humiliating him. was removed because while yes, Chase was embarrassed in that scene, this is a horrendous wording of it. I should've reworded it I suppose, but there you are. I am changing it back to the revision I made. Please comment here if you have any qualms with that so we can discuss it and come to an agreement. There's more than one POV of this character.
Also, while we're here, However, Chase might not be overly moralistic, that is the clunkiest thing I've seen this side of the Mississippi. I'm rewording it, unless someone objects?
Perhaps Chase's success in diagnostics should be added to this article, because his growth as a doctor has been shown throughout season 3, most notably in "Finding Judas" when he has a very "House" moment of inspiration and diagnosis the little girl with an allergy to light, proving House wrong. In "Insensitive" he clearly takes a leadership roll in the team while House is away stalking Cuddy on her date. In "Words and Deeds" Cameron states that Chase comes up with breakthroughs for the case and in "Top Secret" Foreman supports and follows through with Chase's suggestion that they flush the traces of uranium from the patient's body, even though House told them not to.
