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[edit] loc

Well the Library of Congress Country Studies has wrong information which i have had to edit..--Burgas00 14:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Andalusian Spanish

Why do most, if not all, Roma in Spain speak Andalusian Spanish even outside Andalusia? Do they all originate or have roots in this region? --Guzman ramirez 18:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Not really. Some are of Andalusian origin and hence speak Andalusian, others speak with a "Gitano accent" but not Andalusian, some speak with the local accent (see Peret) and some you won't know that they are Gitanos in superficial contact. It can be that you live in a neighborhood or region with lots of Andalusian immigration. --Error 23:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Agree. Asteriontalk 07:54, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes I agree, come to think of it. There is a Gitano accent which is distinct. Nevertheless it sounds to me like it is very much influenced by or even based on the Andalusian one. Albeit, I have never heard a Galician or Asturian Gitano, so I dont know how they would speak... I wouldnt say Peret speaks with a Catalan accent though. --Guzman ramirez 12:30, 20 November 2006 (UTC)


Los gitanos asturianos hablan prácticamente igual que los del "resto" de España. Tienen el mismo acento particular, completamente diferente al habla típica asturiana. 81.9.221.231 21:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ethnic slurs...

I can't imagine the comment below on the article (and a similar one later one) is a unbiased "fact", but is rather an unsubstantied ethnic slur. I think it needs to be reverted/changed, but I am not an expert on the Roma in Spain so don't feel qualified. Perhaps someone else can help.

"Many of them took up a sedentary form of life, stealing from respectful citizens. Although rich yet largely illiterate, they were usually hostile and offensive toward Spanish society." Gmot 17:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead and take it out; no matter what truth there is in those 2 sentences (doubtful, but possible), there isn't any way this could be considered "encyclopedic". Common sense should rule here. +ILike2BeAnonymous 19:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Sounds reasonable - I've done that.Gmot 22:48, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Húngaros"??

"Spanish Roma are usually divided into two main groups: gitanos and húngaros (for Hungarians)."

It's the very first time in my entire life I hear of this. I think it's false; citation needed urgently. I've heard of "zíngaro" as a sinonym of Gipsy, althought not an "exact" sinonym but one wich tends to be more kind and with less "negative connotations" that "gitano". But "húngaros"? No way; nobody says that here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.123.158.114 (talk) 21:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

never heard of the singer "la Húngara"?:-)--Guzman ramirez 22:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

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