User talk:Ronald W Wise

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Welcome!

Hello, Ronald W Wise, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page
• Help pages
• Tutorial
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Powers 23:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your additions to births/deaths/years

Hi, thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. You are adding a lot of people to years, births and deaths; however, they are not particularly notable. Because these pages often become unwieldy and lengthy with the births and deaths of every American Idol contestant, every minor athlete, and every second-rate politican or actor, it is generally considered that only people who achieved particularly outstanding notoriety in their fields/country are added. Could you please refrain from adding every person who only has semi-notoriety, or else the article will be too long and cumbersome? Thank you, and thanks for editing. --DavidShankBone 03:07, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] David Kirby (poet)

• Another editor has added a "speedy delete" template to the article "David Kirby (poet)", suggesting that it be deleted according to the speedy deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but that editor believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, (see "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion,

• • In my opinion, the article has at least potential merit. As I am not the author, I can remove the notice, and I have done so, This will halt the process temporarily. However, the article is very likely to be renominated for deletion very quickly unless it is much improved. Please see my suggestions below.

He seems a worthy subject for an article, but if you would like the article to remain you must write more fully and in the WP style, which includes:

• saying in the first sentence something to demonstrate notability, like "A.b. is professor of X at, winner of the XYZ prize and 10 honorary doctorates" (whatever applies). Use the exact wording either: "notable" or "internationally-known" or "nationally-known"; do not use "famous" -- May sound silly, but that is what many people look for here.
• not going into disproportionate personal details
• listing college degrees with university and year -- and putting the university names in [[double brackets]]
• listing important awards
• listing important memberships and offices held
• listing books published as formal references style: Author, title, Publisher, year ISBN if possible.
• listing some major published papers, say how many total. State the importance the journals are. Say how many other papers cited them.

and, most important, giving more 3rd party sources. A website at a university etc. can be one, but it cannot be the only one. Book reviews are fine, or a newspaper stories. Print or web is OK, but not from a list or a blog. These is, very unfortunately, some prejudice against people from the academic world.

I apologize for not having the time to help more personally. -- DGG 00:56, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incidentally

I notice you have been making numerous biography stubs. This is a meritorious and highly worthwhile activity, but sometimes it is not easy to understand from such a stub that the person is notable. There are a number of editors engaged in the essential activity of deleting newly created articles about truly unnotable people, of which there are several hundred each day. To keep your articles from being deleted by mistake, follow the general suggestions above. DGG 01:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)