Russ Martin
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Russ Martin (born October 4, 1960) is an American radio personality in Dallas, Texas. Martin currently hosts the The Russ Martin Show on KLLI Live 105.3 Free FM in Dallas, Texas.
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[edit] Biography
Martin grew up in Pleasant Grove, Texas, a large working class neighborhood in southeast Dallas, where he graduated from Samuell High. He and the other show members frequently lampoon his working class roots as "white trash with money." Martin's radio career began in the 1980s at KGVL 1400 AM in Greenville, Texas, working 6 p.m. to midnight running the board for religious programs. A month later, his first on-air gig consisted of playing music for 30 minutes between shows.
In 1982 Martin was hired by KTLR 107.1 FM in Terrell, Texas to play country music on weekends. A year later in 1983 he was hired by KAAM 1310 AM in Dallas as a part-time weekend disc jockey. In 1986 Martin was hired for another part-time position by Satellite Music Network for an oldies format, and later worked part-time for Z-Rock where his on-air persona was "The Snake" while still working at KAAM and KAFM.
In 1987 Martin was hired for the 10 a.m. - 2 p.m. shift by top 40 station KEGL 97.1 FM, "The Eagle", in Dallas. He also hosted a talk show on Sunday nights at KEGL. He hosted the television shows Hot TV and Hot Tickets which ran from 1988 to 1994 on the local FOX affiliate KDFW. Martin's fame in Dallas skyrocketed following The Howard Stern Radio Show being taken off the air by KEGL's owner, the Nationwide Mutual Insurance Company, in 1997 when he was asked to fill the timeslot for the morning drive which he announced on his last Sunday Night Talk Show. He was able to push his "replacement" show to number one in the mornings, but never earned the respect of his managers. Eventually, Martin moved to do mornings at another Dallas radio station, KYNG 105.3FM, when they changed to the FM Talk format. He moved to his favorite time slot of afternoon drive after Stern's morning show was picked up by KYNG, and has remained a solid performer in that time slot since. Following the success of his show, Martin has stated emphatically that he will never return to morning radio, no matter how much money a radio station may offer him.
Known for his local charity work, Martin founded The Russ Martin Show Listeners Foundation in 2002 which benefits the families of police officers and firefighters who have fallen in the line of duty and coordinates the annual Heroes Day Parade. In 2006 he formed "The Russ Martin Show Experience", a band made up of show regulars. The band performs cover songs at live venues to raise money for charity. Most often, the shows benefit The Russ Martin Show Listeners Foundation. He serves on the board of advisors at Operation Kindness, a no-kill animal shelter in Carrollton, Texas. Martin generally disdains being recognized for his humanitarian efforts, believing that no good deed goes unpunished.
Martin is well-known for his fascination with the 1960s television show character Batman as portrayed by Adam West, as well as his near obsession with James Garner. Martin also owns a collection of classic TV show cars such as the 1970's Batmobile, the Dukes of Hazzard's General Lee, and his replica of the Mach Five from the cartoon, Speed Racer. Martin is also a longtime friend of actor Russell Johnson, the professor from Gilligan's Island.
Until 2005, Martin was frequently ridiculed by friends and studio guests for his mullet which he had worn since the 1980s. Although hardly fashion conscious, Martin recently cut his hair as a concession to his fame and increased visibility.
[edit] The Russ Martin Show
The Russ Martin Show airs weekdays from 3 p.m. to 7 p.m. on KLLI Live 105.3 Free FM (formerly KYNG) throughout the Dallas metroplex and surrounding cities. Every episode begins with the song "Fire and Mercy" by William Orbit and ends with an instrumental remix of "Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC. At first listen, the show appears to simply consist of a group of guys swapping humorous stories and telling jokes while taking a few phone calls from listeners. People are often surprised to discover that much preparation goes into making the show sound as though it's off the cuff.
Euphemisms, double entendre, and innuendo are used skillfully by Martin when on the air to make seemingly innocuous subject matter instantly hilarious, with cast members heard snickering or breaking into hysterical laughter in the background. Easy-Bake Ovens, baking brownies and ballcocks are notable examples. Anecdotes usually revolve around the local Dallas community which helps foster the listeners' love of the show.
Martin is notorious for writing and performing song parodies on the show with MIDI music and altered lyrics. He will take a classic song like Seasons in the Sun by Terry Jacks, convert the music to MIDI, and alter the lyrics to describe how cancer is eating away his colon (he does not have cancer). Martin rarely finishes a performance due to the laughter from the other cast members in the studio. He offended Dallas mayor Laura Miller with one such song and she refused to speak to him for months, but was anxious to talk to him when she discovered political rival John Wiley Price [1] was present.
The show has a loyal, almost fanatical, following of listeners who communicate to Martin (either by calling the show or email) the comings and goings of other cast members and notable Dallas figures. For example, when J.D. Ryan goes on vacation, Martin will know his flight number and the hotel he is staying at before Ryan has a chance to tell anybody. The show is infamous for the pranks it pulls on program director Gavin Spittle. One amusing prank involved hiring a drywall contractor to "hide" Spittle's office behind a false wall and then film his reaction when he returned to work (Video). Listeners are known to inform Martin of the details of Spittle's private dating life.
In January 2006, Martin started a drive to rename Garrett, Texas to Russ Martin, Texas. He claimed the name change would "bring better roads, better street signs, better utilities and better tools for everyone". A website was set up to collect petitions for the change. This initiative failed due to in-fighting among members of the Garrett city council over Martin's intentions.
Russ' intent is to act as though he doesn't care about the listeners. As such, he frequently avoids giving out the phone number, or ends segments by giving out another local station's musical stinger. The "call now" recording reminds users: "Please don't waste Russ' time by telling him your name. He's far to busy and important and he won't remember it anyway". Russ has not been able to shake listeners though, since his show has maintained its #1 status for many years, and was noted back in 1997 as the only show to fare better than Howard Stern who had previously aired his show in Russ' 1997 timeslot in Dallas.
Over the years, Russ has befriended many television celebrities from the 70's and 60's, such as Russell Johnson, Adam West, James Garner, Bob Denver, Max Baer, Jr., and Martin Milner. In a call with Bob Denver's widow, it was said that Bob's last public appearance was a phone conversation on the Russ Martin Show. Martin also has a penchant for 1960s TV cars, owning a working Mach 5 replica, two Batmobiles, and is currently seeking the Munsters' drag racer.
[edit] Cast
- Russ Martin - Host
- J.D. Ryan - Co-Host
- Everett Newton - Rock & Roll Attorney (appears Wednesdays and Fridays, legal schedule permitting)
- Dan O'Malley - CO-Producer
- Clo Rayborn - Promotions Director
- Gavin Spittle - VP of Programming for KRLD 1080, and Program Director for Live 105.3 FM.
- Trey Trenholm - CO-Producer and full-time real estate broker.
- Brad Majors - Dyslexic and dysgraphic call screenner/associate producer. Known for being well-endowed, Russ refers to him by his nicknames "Bard", "Cock-a-Roach" or "Ween-zilla"
Former personalities who appeared as cast members or regular guests include former producer Rob Riddlemoser, former associate producer Eddie Boyd, former producer Dan Lewis, and porn star L.A. LaMann, detailed accounts of which are featured below.
[edit] Aliases and alter-egos
Martin uses different aliases and alter-egos while on the air and the origin of each name often has a humorous, and sometimes completely fabricated, background. J.D. Ryan is also well known as the Grand Dragon.
- Hoover A name giving to him by several of his cellmates during his stints in prison.
- Cow-Patty Daddy - Martin's CB radio Handle
- Snake - A name early in Martin's career that he was encouraged to call himself on the air. The name is pronounced with a prolonged 'S' sound at the beginning to mimic the sound of a snake's hiss.
- Russiah - The name listeners, or Russiples, came to call Martin because of his almost religious influence on both listeners, and the city of Dallas. It has been driven home in many coincidental occasions where Martin gives a general piece of advice or observation, and there will be a result that eerily mimics his request/advice.
- Propecianequa - A local crack whore who "makes $200 before she gets out of bed" in the morning. Although engaged in a criminal occupation, Propecianequa is very civic minded and originates a great deal of 9-1-1 calls to report crimes and accidents. These calls invariably descend to a scatological or gynecological discussion.
- Princess - Feeling in somewhat of a slump because of both show problems and medical tests for his many "cancers", Martin decided it would amuse him for people to call him Princess for a while.
- Ass Sock of C Block - The name Martin was given on one of his many "prison stints". Martin was a McGovern supporter in the 1970s, something that displeased his fellow Chinese inmates who were quite fond of Richard Nixon since Nixon had recently visited China. In a show of strength, the Chinese inmates raped Martin in the prison's laundry room, leaving a sock in his rectum. The name followed him through the rest of his stay in that prison, and then on the air after he told his story.
- Boss - A term commonly used for a prison guard, Martin decided to be called Boss despite his many "prison stays". The choice was simple, it amused him.
- The Za-Za - In June 2006, Martin decided he no longer wanted listeners to refer to him by his Russiah title and desired that he only be called Boss, The Za-Za, or Russ-zaza from then on.
- The Afternoon Jigganaught
- Mad Dog Martin
- Screwdini - Martin's effort to make the show more of a morning zoo resulted in himself adopting this moniker in hopes of "marketing" a show called "Screwdini and the Dragon" (Dragon referring to J.D.'s on-air alter ego, The Grand Dragon) "Screwdini" is a reference to his ability to hide his past indiscretions from his current girlfriend.
- Mona, Amy, and other girlfriends - Martin uses pseudonyms to identify his girlfriends so they can retain some degree of anonymity. These names are usually selected because the girlfriend resembles someone Russ knew in the past, sometimes as far back as high school. Russ' current girlfriend "Amy" was accidentally revealed as actually being named "Mandy" on November 15th, 2006.
[edit] Notable bits
Happy the Clown - In reference to a then recent 2001 death of a former children's entertainer whose stage name was "Happy the Clown", Martin's show eulogized and parodied the clown's death on his show. This segment has always been referred to as "Happy the Clown" and has constantly been referenced as an inspiration for Martin to return to television and create fictional dramedy based on his version of the death.
The Dog Poem - referring to a poem Russ reads on the air sporadically, the cast will often make sidebets as to who will start to cry first when the poem is read on air. The poem itself charts the life of a dog, from young puppy to its final trip to be put to sleep.
The Russ Martin Show Band - For years, when Russ has hosted his annual "White Trash Party" he would often get on stage with a local AC/DC cover band or the main band (commonly Loverboy), playing what little guitar he knew along with them. In late 2005, Russ decided to take the concept into a full fledged band for his 2006 White Trash Party. The band's profits go directly to his charity. His band is made up of a rotating cast of people on the show itself, with many different people covering vocals. The band's core is Russ on lead guitar, producer Rob Riddlemoser on drums, and band manager Chuck Hasley on keyboards. Russ often plays charity events benefitting police and fire departments in the D/FW area. The band, and its supposed poor capability, is often discussed at length in recent months, yet seems to remain frequently booked in top quality clubs in the DFW area.
The Russ Martin Bar - Russ has pursued the idea of owning a bar, with its profits benefitting local fire and police departments. As of, August 2006, the bar concept has been approached twice, the first time resulting in Russ seeking outside investors and failing to meet self-imposed financial goals. The second one involved a current owner becoming a difficult seller, often setting outrageous and unethical demands upon Russ and his corporation to buyout the lease and equipment. Russ often equates his ability to acquire a bar as a sign of the apocalypse. Everytime he makes progress on it, some unrelated large scale global threat appears. (i.e. Avian Flu, N. Korean conflict, Iran conflict) In September of 2006, Martin revealed he was in negotiations for another bar, but publicly says he doesn't want it anymore.
Syndication - During the summer of 2004, Russ' show was briefly sydicated to a sister station in Austin, TX (104.3, KOYT). KLLI management tried repeatedly to assist in better marketing and imaging the station in an effort to allow it to succeed. Russ felt the image of a coyote was a poor choice for a midsized market trying to create a credible Hot Talk format. He was stymied by its program director, Dusty Hayes, who was seen on the show as the biggest reason why the syndication effort failed several months later. The station is now a hip-hop format.
Russ' diseases - Russ often claims to have multiple disease or addictions that caused them. They have included: Feline Leukemia, "ass-cancer", The Mambo #5, and is "addicted" to huffing tape head cleaner. In addition, Martin had his own on air vasectomy in 2001. Martin and the rest of the cast continue to receive medical treatment from visiting physicians while on the air, including prostate exams. While off the area Martin is known to be a practicing homosexual, he has never "come out of the closet" to his fans.
Gary from Mesquite - Russ frequently ridicules a listener named Gary from Mesquite, Texas. Gary was at one time a frequent caller, and is well known for being a middle-aged adolescent who runs along the sidelines with flags at his (former) high school's football games, is obsessed with professional wrestling, and is reputed to be a bedwetter.
The Shirt - A popular segment involving Russ' attempts to don a powerlifting shirt, which he described as "a dog sweater". The segment has Russ in great amounts of pain trying to contort himself into a shirt to enable him to do bench presses at weights greater than he was previously capable of. He had the shirt cut off of him, and tried again with a velcro version of the same shirt. This has also been attempted with power lifting shorts on Russ and JD.
Rob "Martin" - In late 2004, Rob, the former producer, decided to get a shrink for Russ to help him deal with all his show related stress. In doing so, it came out that Rob considers Russ a father figure. Over the next several months, Rob tried to imposition himself as Russ' son, referring to himself as "Rob Martin" during commercials, and going so far as to obtain adoption papers for Russ to sign. The whole issue was dropped several months later when another shrink told Russ that Rob just needs to be handled differently than past producers.
Black Eddie - A frequent caller named Eddie became a regular call in, for his lack of qualms in using the derogatory term "nigger" towards callers, Gavin Spittle, or J.D. Ryan. Russ has had a long standing rule of only black listeners may use this word on the air because "it's their word to use." Black Eddie was later revealed to be blind, which has not changed his ability to get under J.D.'s skin. The moniker of "Black" Eddie was given to differentiate him from a former show cast member, Eddie Boyd who left under mysterious circumstances.
Drew - Russ Martin's technical advisor and, not to mention, all around mischievously unpredictable "Show Prep With Pants". He started working with the show in 2005. Drew seems to be able to find information about *anyone* no matter how they contact the show. He also monitors the activity on Russ' internal computer network at the house. This bothers Russ, so much so that he will contact Drew anytime he "accidentally" goes to a site containing gay pornography or anything even remotely questionable. As of 06/02/2006, Drew is no longer part of the show. He was deemed too much of a liability after name dropping (Russ' name!) when pulled over for traffic citations (and getting out of the tickets!), telling cops Russ may have a gun at a band event (which Drew claims Russ did to him first), smacking Gavin at band practice for no real reason, showing up FIVE times in the building when hot dancers were around, trying to set the rules for his Fetner experience (wouldn't shut up at all), misplacing his saxophone during the station's Live 6 band event (and wanting to tell Russ about it during a costume change), telling Russ to "shut up" during band practice, "possibly" leaving the Rock School unlocked late after band practice (he swears he locked it), blocking Russ' home Internet connection from opening porn sites and putting the blame on Al-Qaeda, and telling Black Eddie to follow his voice in a parking lot instead of leading him by the arm. He has been kicked out of the band at least five times before (once, twice in the same day), but this time, his show email address has been disabled and has been told not to show up at band practices. 06/25/2006 - Drew managed to get back on the show, his email drew@therussmartinshow.com re-enabled and he's back in the band playing his own new saxophone. Conclusion: He really is "Show Prep With Pants" OR Russ wants to keep Drew quiet about his questionable surfing habits. Rob (Russ' producer and front man) has agreed to accept responsibility for any future incidents if Russ will forgive and forget past transgressions. Russ readily agreed because there is no questioning Rob's ability to control even the most difficult of situations, even Drew. Final update: Drew has not been back on the show since Rob is no longer the producer. The exact details aren't clear, especially considering he passed a lie detector test that exhibited his trustworthiness. Some speculation exists pertaining to the disappearance of the Best Of CD library & Drew's exit from the show, but again, nothing concrete.
Eddie Boyd - A long time producer of the show, Eddie left in early January 2004 one day and never returned. Many listeners thought this was a joke, and still to this day assume that Eddie is still in on the joke, despite being seen working a different job outside of radio. Eddie frequently involved himself in some of the more dangerous stunts on the show, taking responsibility in many fireworks being detonated, equipment being shot with a gun or crossbow, or filling in as a third contestant, "Chili" on the show's infrequent game show giveaways, many of which were scripted by Mr. Boyd.
Dan Lewis - A former producer of the show, Dan left in 2003 seeking to further his radio career on his own. Russ had arranged for him to have a weekend radio show on the same station, but the show was cancelled after several months due to low ratings. Rather than continue to work on Russ' show, Mr. Lewis decided to take his show to another station where it ran for several more years. Mr. Lewis is often the butt of many jokes and song parodies on the show due to his bombastic behavior towards others, and his over-valued self worth as a local celebrity. In a short stint where Dan wasn't employed with the show, Dan worked at Six Flags over Texas as "Black Bart". He was a wild west gunfighter, who was the "most requested" Black Bart in the history of the Wild West Show. In August 2006, listeners reported that Dan was an assistant manager at a Bass Pro Shop. In November 2006, listeners reported that Dan was doing a morning radio show in Victoria, Texas.
J.D. Ryan, news director is often victim of his own clumsiness, falling repeatedly over the last few years. This resulted in injuries that required multiple shoulder surgeries. This has brought to light that J.D. could potentially be a victim of gravity's influence. As a recurring bit, Ryan is also frequently accused of being a Ku Klux Klan member, and inserting backmasked racist messages into the broadcast.
Kidd Kraddick - Host of the popular radio show heard on KISSFM 106.1, Russ often accuses Kidd of stealing his material, and sadly, it seems to be true. Credence is led to this theory since the overnight broadcast of the Russ Martin Show airs during the early morning hours, when Kidd would be driving to work. Russ has often tried to contact Kidd, through guerilla tactics and charitable events. Kidd has been unresponsive and heartless to these efforts, going so far as to turn down a $5,000 donation to Kidd's Kids for a 5 minute phone call.
Dr. Venegas and Dr. Fetner - Russ' two physicians, his general practice and urologist respectively. Russ refuses to go to the doctor on his own, or do much on his own, preferring to do such distasteful tasks on air. This has resulted in visits from each doctor on the air for prostate exams, colds, infections, and Russ' self-assertion that he needs steroids or mood-enhancing drugs to help his over all well being. The two doctors have an on-air rivalry over their conflicting views of Russ' overall health.
LA LaMann - A former on/off again girlfriend for Russ, she is a former porn star who frequently came on the show to lavish attention on Russ. She considered Russ briefly as a possible father to her children. However, Martin had a vasectomy in 2001 which was broadcast on air. The relationship between her and Russ became strained after she verbally threatened several porn stars who were booked on his show to "keep their hands off my man." Russ didn't agree with this, and cut her off. She has called in sporadically from time to time to fill listeners in on the details of her strange post-porn life. She has dated a billionaire, worked for a pet shelter, sought out to be a surrogate mother for an anonymous stranger, and briefly returned to the strip club circuit in 2004.
Russ' drinking - Russ uses theater of the mind and silence to punctuate his humor on the show. One of these efforts is the uncorking of his bottle of Jack Daniel's "Gentleman Jack" to take a dramatic swig. Russ switched to Crown Royal in late 2005, but since Crown Royal doesn't bottle their whiskey with a cork, it is transplanted into bottles of Jack Daniel's "Gentleman Jack" with a cork in it. Many listeners think the cork sound is a sound effect created by Russ since he never really sounds drunk on the show. Listeners can call in for a celebratory swig along with Russ, calling in with their own corked bottle of Gentleman Jack.
Russ the preacher - Russ became an ordained minister through the Universal Life Church in 2001. He has conducted on-air weddings and baptisms. Russ has parodied the role of a pentecostal preacher on many occasions discussing less savory topics such as masturbation, or directed anger towards specific callers. The holy water used in baptism has been sullied by J.D. Ryan who used the bowl it was kept in to wash his hands after eating BBQ.
Highway to Hell - From the popular AC/DC song, Russ was listening to the song on the show one day and questioned the lyrics of the song. The opening lyric of "Living easy, lovin' free, season ticket on a one way ride..." has been disputed on the show. Instead, Russ hears the following lyrics, "Living easy, lovin' free, she's a nigger on a one way ride..." In fact, whenever this song is inevitably played at a live event with Russ, these alternate lyrics are used. It's left up to debate whether or not Bon Scott actually wrote these lyrics as they appear or as Russ interprets them. The "ticket"=N word debate has allowed a good number of jokes through the guise of misappropriation of the word "ticket". One of the more popular ones is the show's main ratings competitor is an AM band station, 1310AM KTCK "The Ticket"
April Fools Day 2004 - This day was the first day back after a week long vacation for the show. The show was not aired on KLLI, but on then TOP 40 station Wild 100.3, now a JACKFM affiliate. The show was aired as a regular show, with the addition of music between segments. Russ played the show as if he'd been offered an obscene amount of money to host the "new" morning show. Russ decided to take live calls, hoping to weed out the Soccer Moms to have them call in and complain. Early in the show, Russ casually admits it's a bit, and no further mention is made throughout the broadcast. The intent of the joke was to mock Morning Radio shows, Dallas host Kidd Kraddick, and Russ' general discontent with music radio in general.
Explosives - Russ often uses explosives and rockets as part of his show. One of his favorite things to do is to set bombs off in the dumpster outside the studio, which sometimes gets him in trouble with management. However, the man who supplied Russ with homemade bombs was recently arrested, and so there hasn't been any explosions since then. Russ also likes to use fireworks, especially as tool of punishment when other show members screw up. Some of the fireworks related bits include: the Rocket Closet, the Rocket antlers, Rocket Skates, and the Rocket Chair.
[edit] Bumper music
There are a host of songs used on the shows various bumpers in and out of the show. These are usually 15 - 45 seconds and usually don't have lyrics of the songs used. This list is NOT complete, and grows constantly. Artists are noted when original artist is known.
- "Hot Girls in Love", Loverboy
- "Dirty White Boy", Foreigner
- "Panama", Van Halen
- "Burnin' Love", Russ Martin Show Band
- "Eastbound and Down", Jerry Reed
- "Marijuana", Hayseed Dixie
- "Margaritaville", Jimmy Buffett
- "Batdance", Prince and the New Power Generation
- Remix of AC/DC's "Back in Black" and Nine Inch Nails' "Closer"
- Gavin Spittle's karaoke from age 16-17 (includes "Part-Time Lover", "Uptown Girl")
- "Jump (for my love)", Pointer Sisters
- "Sharp-Dressed Man", ZZ Top
- The Rockford Files Theme, Mike Post
- "Your Mama", Kennedy
- "Highway to Hell", AC/DC
- "Venus", Bananarama
- "Safety Dance", Men Without Hats
- A dance remix of "Crazy Train", Ozzy Osbourne
- "Woo Hoo", The 5.6.7.8's
- "Oh no, a Negro!", a quote from JD Ryan that has been remixed by a listener into a bumper to the tune of Dixie (doubles as the Negro-Alarm Russ uses for callers on the show)
[edit] Quotes
"I didn't vote for Bill Clinton to slow down my computer." This quote was made during an August 1998 morning show on KEGL 97.1 FM, with reference to America's eagerness to read Kenneth Starr's report on the Monica Lewinsky scandal. After the report was released to the internet, the online traffic subsequently jammed cyberspace and created a major inconvenience for many.
"I'm just an average, hard-working stiff who enjoys a little salty language, and a nice cup of joe." In reference, and in jest, to Martin's perception of himself. Many times, Martin has confessed much confusion on why he, let alone his entire show, would be idolized to the degree that it is. This quote has been immortalized on numerous Dallas-area billboards promoting the show.
"Inertia don't know (sic) brand names..." In response to a caller who claimed that Pittsburgh Steelers Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's June 2006 motorcycle accident was due, in part, to the exotic Suzuki Hayabusa motorcycle Roethlisberger was riding.
"Russ - What happened to Drew's sax teacher? Rob: "Drew sent the real lyrics (of ACDC's "Highway to Hell") to him and I guess it made him mad" Russ:"Why?" Rob: "Apparently he is one."
"I don't want to be the godfather. I want to be the shady uncle... with the checkered past." in reference to the producer's then unborn child.
"I've got all the time in the world." Said by Al Brumley, who was the Dallas Morning News' radio reporter, a few months before his death while on the phone with Russ as he was talking to someone in the studio leaving Al waiting. At the time, Al was struggling with brain tumors that would eventually end his life. Russ thought it was one of the most ironic, and therefore, funny things Al could have said and a great testament to Al's personal strength.
"That's exactly what I'm thinking." Russ said in response to a woman from the organ donation service SouthWest Transplant Alliance when she didn't want to talk about her divorce but rather she wanted to talk about organ donation.
