Talk:Samovar

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Is an explanations of soviet vs western voltages really in place in an article about the samovar?

How about just a link to such an explanation "One of the difficulties of exporting samovars to North America is the differeing voltages between the two countries"Datepalm17 08:22, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

They are not so much explanations of differences as of the adaptation, which is samovar-specific: you cannot apply it to, e.g., a TV set (as is you would need a Russian one :-).Mikkalai 02:06, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I (who idly stumbled upon this lively article) found the explanation amusing (along with the bit about ignorant bastards suing pants off) and potentially beneficial to people wanting to modify their Russian samovars. -- ke4roh 15:17, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

I'm doing some editing (which I started before reading the bit in te Village Pump a couple of months ago), a little to make it more encyclopedish, but mostly to fix up the style. Some parts are being taken out in pursuit of the first goal, but I'm trying to leave in as much as I possibly can, and preserve the flavor as much as I can when I'm rewording and reworking. --♥ «Charles A. L.» 16:38, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

I like it just the way it is. It brings in a little bit of russian humour to the thing and in a way makes it more authentic. 21:15, Aug 31, 2004 (in Western Kazakhstan)

Ditto. Leave the humor intact (or add to it if you are as funny as the author.) --spinoza 04:47, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Without wanting to sound a boring toad: there's a link to the original if you want a comic article. This is an encyclopedia, and some formality of tone is expected. The section on electrical modification is absolutely scary and probably illegal. Tearlach 14:16, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

It's certainly possible to leave a bit of whimsy in the article, without it resolving out to utter puffery. But I totally agree with you about the electrical mods. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 08:20, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Sapog vs. bellows 2 Removed piece 3 Modern samovar? 4 Tea from where?

[edit] Sapog vs. bellows

217.132.130.128 wrote: Of course, there were special samovar bellows as well, so some historians claim the use of sapog to be a legend. Nonetheless it has been depicted numerous times, especially in caricature.

Of course, in modern days of numerous gadgets and for people that eat with nine different kinds of spoon, it is difficult to believe that some things were done in simple ways. Of course in the family of a rich kupets (merchant), there were bellows, coal grips, etc., and most surely they did't feed samovar with pine cones (another legend, these silly cones.... eh?). But an average peasant family considered these things to be vanity. Sapog did the job. What else do you want? And I did it myself. And by the way, they don't sell these samovar bellows today. So these are legend now. Mikkalai 17:42, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

My russian friend just told me a story of how they'd turn a shoe or boot over and use that as their "bellows". =) -- Sy / ^(talk) 16:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I tried using pine cones in my samovar. They produced a huge volume of smoke, an acrid stench, and coated the heating chamber with resin. I'll never try THAT again! --Saxophobia 00:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removed piece

During World War 2, factories of the defense industry -- and samovars have always been byproducts of military production -- were moved from the European part of the Soviet Union to behind the Ural Mountains, out of the reach of the fascist intruders. Thus, skillful manufacturers of samovars and other essential equipment were saved, despite the Nazi occupation of Tula. ?????? The Nazis were stopped before they ever took Tula. Read some history!

(Anon's "???" comment). Dubious first half of first sentence, and hence the conclusion. Not to say that the anon was right. Guderian was stopped at Tula. And Tula military industry was not evacualted (at least much of them). Tula samovars were bravely and successfully defended! Mikkalai 18:09, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Modern samovar?

I would like to see a picture of a modern electric samover to see what they look like now.159753 13:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tea from where?

In order to find the origin of the Samovar, I suppose it would help if we knew where the tea came from in Russia, and when. The origin of the tea plant and its cultivation is in southwest China (Yunnan) and Benghal, but did Russia get it from there? Or was the samovar a Turkish invention / of Turkic people in central Asia, and why - perhaps because it is portable, fitting in a nomadic life style? - Marco (ecocam.com) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.241.149.64 (talk) 08:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC).