Talk:Scat singing
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I moved the Dick Higgins material here from the article called Skat, which I just converted into an article on the card game. I took one word out of the Dick Higgins quote when I moved it. The word was metatacized which I do not recognize and neither does Webster's Unabridged or the Oxford Englsih Dictionary. I replaced it with [transformed] which is what the sense suggested to me. Either Higgins meant metastasized in which case the word is very poorly chosen, but I suppose should be put back in the quote, or metatacized is a technical musical term that at least one person with a fairly large vocabulary did not recognize, and should be glossed with [transformed] or some better word if it is put back in. See Talk:Skat for what I did to that article. Ortolan88 04:12 Dec 30, 2002 (UTC)
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[edit] Terrific source of information on Scat
Many thanks for the expanded information about the history of Scat, the origin and early performers. As a student, I found your site one of the best on the subject.
Frances Spranger
[edit] Title
I am reverting the change of article title from "Scat singing" to "Jazz scat", as the former is a very much more common term for the subject. I'll agree to moving the title if there is concensus to do so; if you think the page should be retitled, please discuss the reasons, thanks. -- Infrogmation 04:45, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The B-52's
The B52 did scat singing in some of their songs, should we mention them in this article? --SuperDude 02:17, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- If they are particularly famous or notable for their scat singing. Certainly hundreds of artists have done scat singing, those mentioned are generally those who were unusual for doing it early, in some influential or extrodinary way, or were famous specifically for scat singing. -- Infrogmation 04:50, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] King of Scat?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't Louis Prima's name be mentioned in here? I've heard him referenced before as the King of Scat.
[edit] Informative?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't an article on scat singing include a cliche example? "Schoobee shoobaba doo baba fluble wop do do ee o?" or the like? The article seems to beat around the bush.
I quite agree with you. Also, there appears to be nothing on scat singing post-Louis Armstrong, despite the significant contributions by Ella Fitzgerald, Mel Torme, Sarah Vaughan, Betty Carter et al. I find it difficult to write about these singers acheivements without falling foul of the old NPOV/not sourced law! Gareth E Kegg 03:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Ella Fitzgerald
On revising the History section, I found the following in the code:
<!-- It was [[Ella Fitzgerald]] who popularized scat singing as a legitimate vocal jazz art form, her [[1947]] recording of the [[Gershwin]]'s [[Lady be Good!]] is usually credited with this. comment: credited by who? Who concidered it not "legitimate" before, and why the change? -->
I've weakened the claim and reattached the information to the section; also fixing it up some (like correcting the Gershwin and song links).
--Andymussell 02:16, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I added some stuff on Adelaide Hall, Duke Ellington, Jim Morrison and Sarah Vaughan.SmokeyTheFatCat 21:28, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Women scat singing
I removed the claim in the description of Adelaide Hall in 1927 "This is the first instance of a woman singing scat." Source please? That certainly doesn't sound right to me-- I'd have to review my Lizzy Miles, Bessie Smith, Clara Smith etc records and discographies.... Boop boop a doop, -- Infrogmation 00:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
I have the reference from the sleeve notes to a Duke Ellington album by Nat Hentoff. Not available on the web as far as I know. I believe the reference to be true but I won't put it back in if it bothers you SmokeyTheFatCat 15:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- It "bothers" me only in that is seems wrong. I certainly believe you that the sleeve notes say that, but unfortunately some dubious assertions have wound up appearing on liner notes. I recall an acoustically recorded version of "When My Sugar Walks Down the Street" from '24 or early '25 with a scat duet chorus (I'd have to refind the 78; the female singer may have been Aileen Stanley). I don't know who the first female to record scat (and of course the first to record doesn't necessarily mean the first to do it). I wouldn't be surprised if earlier examples still could be found. However Hall in '27 is certainly not the first female example, no more than Armstrong in '26 suddenly invented scat while recording "Heebie Jeebies" (to mention another incorrect assertion that has found its way into liner notes). Cheers, -- Infrogmation 16:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] what would a person who scats be called?
would they be a scatter, a scatist, or something else? does anyone know?
- A scat singer. -- Infrogmation 15:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
