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[edit] How long were traditional scrolls?

When I'm thinking about a "scroll", in the traditional sense, what length of text should I be thinking about? Could they be made arbitrarily long, and rolled-up? When I hear that the Library of Alexandria had 400,000-700,000 scrolls, is that more like 500,000 pages, or 500,000 books? -- Creidieki 17:53, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

not really sure, but more like a book than a page. Torah is all on 1 (unusually large) scroll & some Chinese painted ones (exceptionally) are about ? 200 feet long. At a guess each book of the Old Testament would have been on 1 scroll in Hebrew. Also I think each "book" of the Aenead was 1 scroll. Certainly they were rolled up, but if they got too long it would take ages to go straight to a particular place. Anyone got better info?

Johnbod 20:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name of the article?

The name "Scroll (parchment)" in not quite right name for this article, as this deals with scrolls, and they were not predominantely parchment but papyrus. I suggest this article to be the main article and others (see Scroll) for other uses? If nobody objects it, I will make the change in two weeks. --Aethralis 09:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

While I agree that it shouldn't be located at Scroll (parchment), I don't think it should be the main article either, because there is way too many disambiguations. And one can argue that for the information age, scroll is more often heard when used to talk about mouse or webpages. I propose that it be moved to Scroll (roll) or Scroll (writing) or Scroll (medium) (my personal favorite) or some other broader description of scrolls. --Wirbelwind 06:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok. I almost agree but when you look at the disambiguation page, the only other meaning of "scroll" is from music (Scroll (music)). All others come from the verb "to scroll", and so scrolling and scrollwork actually do not need this disambiguation page at all. And more to the point, scroll is the orginal meaning and the basis of all the derivative meanings.--Aethralis 08:48, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I removed the entry from WP:RM. If you want the article moved, please reopen the case at WP:RM but I urge you to follow all the steps described there, especially creating the place for discussion on this talk page. I have no particular opinion on the subject. Duja 08:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Scratch that, changed my mind. Having investigated "What links here" for Scroll, all the incoming links refer to the parchment. It seems you're right, and this should be the primary meaning. I'll fix the situation. Duja 08:46, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Parchment is also a problem from the worldwide view angle, as the Chinese & other East Asians used paper from very early on - invented c100-200. Johnbod 03:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Asia

There is next to nothing on Asian scrolls, and the Chinese (Torah scrolls apart) used the scroll the longest. I may add a bit, but I don't know much. Johnbod 03:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

PS the external link seems deadJohnbod 03:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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