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Talk:Sea Scouts (Boy Scouts of America)

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It has been proposed below that Sea Scouts (Boy Scouts of America) be renamed and moved to Sea Scouting (Boy Scouts of America).

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Discussion to support or oppose the move should be on this talk page, usually under the heading "Requested move". If, after a few days, a clear consensus for the page move is reached, please move the article and remove this notice, or request further assistance.

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[edit] Changes

I made some corrections/updates on the uniforming section. Someone made some changes that I don't quite agree with. Will largely correct, they had some misinterpretations. --emb021

Sigh! Again, I had to made corrections/additions on the uniforming section! --emb021

I had to make a slight correction on the awards. Sea Scouts do NOT automatically get the higher Venturing Awards. Ordinary DOES get you Sea Scout Bronze, but Sea Scouts must STILL go on and earn Gold & Silver. Getting Able & QM will NOT automatically get you Gold or Silver. I see that someone had jammed in a new section on Ranks which pretty much replicated what was under advancement, so merged them. --emb021 Nov 9, 2006

[edit] Confusion

The first sentence of the article says:

Sea Scouts is a program within the Boy Scouts of America's Venturing Program. It is a nautical program for young men and women ages 14-20. [emphasis mine]

Since when does the BSA admit girls? Or is this a special coed program within the BSA? --Micahbrwn 07:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Uh, where have you been??? The BSA has been admitted girls to the Explorer/Sea Explorer programs since 1971! When the Venturing program replaced the Explorer program in 1998, Venturing, along with Sea Scouts remainded co-ed. Emb021 17:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

Someone had suggested that the Sea Scout (Boy Scouts of America) page be merged with the Sea Scout page.

  • Stupid. The Sea Scout page is for the more general world-wide Sea Scout program, which is different for each country. The Sea Scout (Boy Scouts of America) page is for the unique Sea Scout program that exists in the US. They should not be merged. NO MERGER is my vote. Emb021 17:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Against This article is specific to BSA, while Sea Scout is WOSM general. --Gadget850 14:50, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Against merger for the reasons given, but both articles need looking at to ensure that the one does only cover the BSA and the other does give full WOSM cover. I think this debate is over. Nobody on either talk page has agreed they should be merged. I think the merger templates should be removed. --Bduke 22:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Given the time frame and comments, I'm am considering this a "don't merge" consensus, and am removing the tags. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Org

As with the Venturing page, have re-org this page to bring it in-line with a proposed outline for all BSA division pages. I haven't made much new material, just moved stuff around. We need new stuff in the area of activities, training, etc. I'll put some basic stuff here hopefully, but others should pitch in. --Emb021 20:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cabin boy

I have a 1942 merit badge pamplet that illustrates a number of emblems on the back cover, including "cabin boy". Any clues what this was? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 23:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. From what I gather, this was some kind of special patch that those scouts under 14 could be made kind of 'junior Sea Scouts'. --emb021 Nov 9, 2006

[edit] Marlinspike?

What's a Marlinspike? : "A Scout who earns the first rank, Apprentice, shows basic knowledge of the water. S/he must have basic marlinspike seamenship skills and water knowledge." --AW 00:17, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Local links

This article is on the national program. Local stuff belongs in the "by state" articles. I think we have a policy on this. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:15, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I see the links crept back in. See the link in Law Enforcement Exploring for the proper way to deal with this using the Open Directory Project. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 03:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I deleted the whole local links section and added a DMOZ link. Please add any units to the Open Directory- simply click on the link to follow. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 15:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rename suggestion

What is the reason for the suggested rename? Chris 03:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Per the Language of Scouting:

Sea Scouting
Sea Scouts specialize in traditional nautical activities, i.e., sailing, boating, and maritime careers.

--Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Oppose - this is an article on the Sea Scout section. Still, maybe a redirect would be in order from Sea Scouting (Boy Scouts of America)? Horus Kol Talk 14:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
confused this is the BSA article. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 14:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Support Sea Scouts are boys & girls. Sea Scouting is what they do. This article is more about what they do (their program) than the scouts themselves. -NThurston 14:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

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