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Verify tribes living in the area pre-european settlement

Contents 1 Collaboration request? 2 History 3 Geography and setting 4 Commercial Development 5 Education 6 Section suggestion: Fire Station

[edit] Collaboration request?

Any collaborators out there? Albatross2147 02:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi do you live in sevo too? Brent01 06:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Putting a template on the page might get more interest. I have been working on quite a few Blactown suburbs - mainly closer to Mt Druitt. Try a callout to the high school IT classes

Also, I added this (The 2001 City of Blacktown Social Plan ) to Seven Hills, New South Wales#References. That provides some interesting statistics you can use to make verified statements regarding the demographic of the local residents - whether they are westies, bogans, or "normal couth civilised individuals", I leave up to you to interpret... .--Garrie 01:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe this could be a model to develop towards? Suggested Suburb Skeleton as posted on the WP:Sydney/suburbs page. --Garrie 06:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

good idea - go for it - but don't cut out the current content Albatross2147 09:08, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

This needs more work obviously. Albatross2147 02:48, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Whilst I don't dispute there were indiginous Australians there at white settlement there needs to be a reference to back up the tribal identities. --Garrie 05:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Gazza u are starting to tick me off - the tribes mentioned are documented in Jack's book which is given as a ref/source doc which is a reliable source so far as I am concerned. If you want to write the flippin' entry do so but sitting on the sidelines sniping with quite unhelpful comments isn't what makes Wp attractive. Albatross2147 09:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geography and setting

I vote to get rid of the suburb box it is ugly and Sydney does not feature a grid layout for suburbs.

Proposal: Delete the nearby suburbs infobox

Strong Agree: --Garrie 01:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Oppose Vociferously - what's "ugly" go to do with it? Albatross2147 05:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, pretty POV isn't it - but I've seen it used a LOT in arguements to remove article elements... stick with the suburbs in Sydney aren't laid out on a grid then! --Garrie 05:59, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commercial Development

I quote:

The Seven Hills shopping mall was the first in NSW.

Can someone provide a verified source for this? I think the QVB might be a bit older and it has been a shopping mall for quite a while now... --Garrie 01:45, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

it does need to be explicated but "the Seven Hills shopping centre was the first purpose built single level multi tenant retailing facility with on site car parking for patrons in NSW" does not sound too felicitous does it? Anywho I would've thunk that QVB was in fact a shopping arcade or shopping gallery (galleria?) rather than what we think of as a shopping mall Albatross2147 05:34, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

The City of Blacktown website states "The Seven Hills Regional Shopping Centre was the built in 1960." This Westfield document states that there was a Westfield in Blacktown completed in 1959. The photo shows onsite parking and the text explains it as being a multilevel complex with multi-tenant retail outlets.

"With its supermarket, two department stores and 12 shops built around a courtyard, Westfield Place was a showcase for new trends and technology....and Westfield Place provided for its customers 50 free on-site parking spaces"

Whatever you put here has to be verifiable. I agree with what you are saying about over-explaining the concept of a shopping mall but given the QVB was completed before cars it wasn't going to have onsite undercover parking! The amazing thing is it is still so much like it was when it was first finished.

If you have a source to confirm the previous version that "The Seven Hills shopping mall was the first in NSW", then feel free to revert my edit and include your source as a reference. --Garrie 06:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I did not write the words "The Seven Hills Regional Shopping Centre was the built in 1960." it was in the entry before I did anything to it. The thing is tho' I have lived in Sevo and environs for a fair proportion of my life. I remember the opening of the Seven Hills Shopping Centre quite clearly as it was such a sensation. People travelled to shop there in the first few weeks for the "experience", which if it is in fact true that Westfield opened in Blacktown in 1959 would not have been the case. I am not sure that I would die in a ditch proclaiming the veracity of anything in a corporate history or even anything produced by BCC but I can't contradict what you have produced. In any event I note the Westfield history refers to Top Ryde Shopping Centre opening in 1957 which as I recall is right (but it was a long way away). Well done with your research tho' 08:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I just down to the Westfield Place part. That's not a shopping mall in the true sense of the word and as for the onsite parking - well it was hardly purpose built - unlike Sevo's parking areas on the roof etc. Albatross2147 09:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Education

Rather than becoming list-cruft I think it would be better to summarise how many schools there are in the area. Maybe have a seperate article if you want to list every school in the suburb? If there are wikipedia articles for these schools they could form a child category under "schools in new south wales" called "schools in Seven Hills", and you could easily link from the Education section to that category.

Also: Wikipedia should not be a classifieds for for-profit early childhood daycare centres (sorry if that's harsh) - if they have outstanding features feel free to discuss them though! --Garrie 01:49, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Section suggestion: Fire Station

You already have the foundation for a good section there in the photo. Maybe if you talk to the station officer he has a media collection that could easily be turned into a good section for the article? Getting a collection of existing press releases is not original research, it is just research. --Garrie 01:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)