Talk:Shankill, Dublin
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I've removed one paragraph and one sentence from this article and made some other minor amendments. The paragraph about the notable inhabitants, didn't, in my opinion, establish their notability. The sentence I removed seemed to be inappropriate and possible vandalism. I've added an external link for the local authority and some links to other wikipedia articles which I thought were warranted. I have rewritten some of the text to improve readability and NPOV. Politepunk 12:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Rewrite
Hi, I've re-written this page to accurately reflect the history and present state of this village and surrounding townlands. However, I can't re-format all these links to external pages and on-page formatting. I would be grateful if someone skilled in this area could.
All the details I've written here are factual and accurate as far as I am aware. I would appreciate some level of respect for this research, but please add anything you know that is not listed here.
89.100.43.138 23:57, 7 November 2006 (UTC) thehotpie
[edit] Famous Residents
This section looks dodgy. No references or links and I've never heard of some of these 'famous' people and I live near Shankill. Please supply some support or I'll delete this section. (Sarah777 00:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC))
[edit] Photo of Station
"The recently refurbished Shankill DART station" !! What did it look like before the refurbishment??? Looks like a guardhouse in a prison perimeter. If someone doesn't put up a better photo I may have to take one myself. Reluctant as I am to go to Shankill. (Sarah777 22:10, 18 December 2006 (UTC))
[edit] The Golden Wreath
The Golden Wreath is indeed a Swedish poetry award; but the only reference Google comes up with mentioning 'Ian McMahon' in relation to the award is this article in Wiki!!
[edit] Photos of Shankill
I've loads of photos of Shankill, will put up some nice ones of the antiquities, street, etc in the new year.
hotpie
[edit] Photo of the Station
I'm so sorry Billy - but this just HAD to go! I've placed it here so that we can gaze at it from time to time; I've also added it to Shankill railway station - where it fits better.
(Sarah777 20:15, 20 March 2007 (UTC))
[edit] Edits
Large housing estates are by their very definition out of character with manorial estates, perhaps you should find out what "point of view" means before editing.
A while back there were edits on this page that changed "flats" to "middle class apartments". That is definitely POV, however I fail to see how your edition adds more insight to the thrust of the sentences, which is to state that the area has undergone a lot of change with regard to the bulk, density and character of the initial developments.
hotpie
Well, thats a point of view. The phrase I removed was "beset on all sides". The article read (to me) as an anti-development tract. Any building is 'out of character' with the ground it stands on by your definition. The Manor houses were out of character with what they replaced. I don't think the use of subjective phrases is very Wiki. The articles for areas from Blackrock down the coast to Greystones were littered with NIMBY-type anti-development stuff. Wiki isn't the place for it; maybe a Residents Association Newsletter?
Georgian-era mansion, beset on all sides by 1960’s housing developments. I changed that to Georgian-era mansion, surrounded by 1960’s housing developments. (Sarah777 12:10, 22 March 2007 (UTC))
Well, that's a point of view. The word 'beset' has more meanings than the narrow one that you construed it to have, e.g.
To hem in; surround: “the mountains which beset it round”.
You may say that there is a prevalent understanding of the word, but again, that's a point of view.
If you have actually seen Shanganagh Park House, it is indeed hemmed in by houses, which, out of character or not, completely surround it. I cannot understand why people stuff South Dublin wikipedia pages with estate-agent nonsense, but my descriptions are accurate in most cases.
thehotpie