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Contents 1 NPOV 2 Dave Gilmour 3 Meaning of "Shpongle" 4 removal of link spam

[edit] NPOV

Hmm... it may just be me, but this article doesn't seem very NPOV, reading more like a promotional sales pitch. -Tyr

Hmm. Not really. I assume you mean bits like this:

one of the most important and influential psychedelic downtempo or Psybient music projects of recent years .... made a huge impact ... considered by many to be among the most important.

Well, the thing is, that's basically true. If you are into the "psyambient" scene then Shpongle are definitely amongst, if not THE, more important and influential artists. However I am completely at a loss as to how I can back this up. I mean... if I found a newspaper article saying so, would that really be any greater proof than my current statement based on the consensus of years of speaking to followers of this area of music, both in person and online? It's a tough one. I suppose their sales figures are probably much higher than others but I have no firm facts on that either. I remember reading "Tales" sold over 50,000 or something like that (which might not sound much, but for such 'minority' music with no major label support, no radio play, no MTV, no media coverage, is pretty damn impressive). And I would strongly suspect that "copycat" artists like Entheogenic have got nowhere near that. But, since I can't remember the exact number I read for Tales, nor where I read it, nor have any evidence about Entheogenic's sales, that doesnt really help either. Stevekeiretsu 00:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Posford's "Twisted" is without any doubt at the very top of psy trance sales with 50,000 copies. 'Are You Shpongled' sold 30,000 copies without any promotion at all as a subgenre of a genre where a couple of thousand sales worldwide is a massive sucess. The preview gigs worldwide have been among the biggest parties going and usually sell out. Shpongle have 28,774 fans on last.fm while Ott has 5,449, Younger Brother have 5,232 and Entheogenic have 5,053. The "psychill" tag puts Shpongle above the next two artists combined. Turkeyphan^t 19:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Gilmour

i have heard that some or another shpongle album features Dave Gilmour on guitar. is it true? which one?

There's an Alan Parsons album where one of the tracks (Return To Tunguska) was done with Shpongle and David Gilmour

• simon posford does all the guitars on their albums if i am not mistaking.

Pete Callard plays the flamenco and jazz guitars, and does the solos.

[edit] Meaning of "Shpongle"

I'm curious what the name Shpongle means or how the name came about. I also want to know exactly how to pronounce it. Jeff

I don’t know what it means (probably nothing), but I do know how to pronounce it, so I’ve added an IPA transliteration for your benefit. By the way, TO ALL EDITORS: Please sign your comments on talk pages and in other discussion fora with four tildes (4×~). Raifʻhār Doremítzwr 09:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Shpongle or "spongle" is an english slang for beeing high on drugs.

No, not really, at least imho - I'm english and I've never heard it used in that sense except by people aware of / implicitly paying homage to the band. Stevekeiretsu 00:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

People will frequently say that they are "sphongled", "spangled" or just plain "mashed". It's all one and the same thing. There is an anecdote where Raja Ram was supposed to have said, "I'm feeling shpongled" while tripping heavily. Turkeyphan^t 19:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] removal of link spam

i have checked out the external links on this article. Following the links to last.fm and musicbrainz gives me the impression this is simply link spam. The shpongle pages on last.fm and musicbrainz do not offer ANY additional information that is not already present in the article. i would also consider discogs for deletion as all it offers in addition is a long discography. discogs is a well know resource, so that if someone really wants detailed information on discograhpies they already know how to get to the discogs website. I don't think we need last.fm and musicbrainz and discogs links on EVERY musican's and band's articles. NoMass 13:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)