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The word Shrek actually comes from the Yiddish word שרעק prononounced "Shrek". It means fear/terror.

Indeed, if exclaiming ´Oh Schreck!´ in German you may be quite terrified. The yiddish word ´shrek´ is actually borrowed from medieval German (low word) and the phrase is widely used in german speaking countries even today.

Contents 1 Songs and Performers 2 Movie trivia 3 Eisner and Shrek 4 Between Fiona and Farquaad 5 Fictional Scots 6 Shrek 4? 7 Redundancy 8 Richard III 9 Derivation of the name 10 References 11 addition to fiona fight 12 Proposed Pinocchio merge 13 Images 14 Shrek and Zizek 15 Farquaad 16 References in trivia

[edit] Songs and Performers

I have updated the Songs and Performers section. The film features the song Hallelujah, composed by Leonard Cohen and originally released on his album Various Positions. However, the version heard on the film is sung by John Cale (the same version appears in the tribute album I'm Your Fan). The soundtrack of the film does not include the Cale version, but another one performed by Rufus Wainwright. --SugarKane 11:02, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Movie trivia

A bit of Movie trivia, since i dont have the courage to add it, and im hoping someone else will notice some more :) Actually this is the only hting i can currently remember.

• When they reach the castle the parkinglot for the chariots the sign says, "You are parked in Lancelot."

I found it to be funny that Mike Myers actually read opposite his wife Robin Ruzan when recording his lines for the climactic love scene at the end of the movie. 68.94.200.122 19:41, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eisner and Shrek

As was previously stated, Lord Farquaad looking like Shrek was completely wrong. If one compares pictures of the two, they are no where near each other in any facial feature... nor is Eisner known to be short. In actuality, Shrek is based on Eisner, which is clearly evident if the two are physically compared.

---Edit: I found a pic demonstrating this (http://www.nanalog.com/images/shrekeisner2.jpg).

66.82.9.52 23:08, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Virtually every publication which comments on the matter seems to think it's Farquaad who is based on Eisner. Having Shrek (the hero) be so based wouldn't make sense, given the relationship between Katzenberg and Eisner. Besides one picture, can you cite any reference which claims that Shrek is derived from Eisner? --EngineerScotty 22:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Between Fiona and Farquaad

Here's what we need in this article. Lord Farquaad was tricking Princess Fiona into marrying him, and before it happened, Fiona was going to believe in Farquaad. During that wedding, Shrek and Donkey rode the dragon to rescue Fiona from marrying Farquaad, and when Shrek came in, Farquaad told Shrek that he came into a wedding being uninvited. Shrek told Fiona that she can't marry him, and Fiona said back to Shrek, "And why not?", and Shrek told her that it was because Farquaad is just marrying her, so he can be king, which Shrek obviously meant to say that Farquaad is tricking her into marrying him. Then Fiona changed her mind into marrying Shrek, but she needs to be an ogress, in order to marry Shrek. The crowd became displeased and ended up leaving. --Zachkudrna18@yahoo.com

[edit] Fictional Scots

I removed the category Category:Fictional Scots from the article, on the grounds that Shrek is a character in a fictional universe which does not include Scotland. Unlike other Myers characters such as Stuart McKenzie and Fat Bastard, who are unambiguously Scottish, Shrek's no more a Scot than is Gimli from Lord of the Rings--even though both characters were voiced with a Scottish brogue. Likewise, Fiona's not a California girl, Donkey's not African-American, Puss-in-boots is not a Spaniard, and Queen Lillian and King Harold are not English. --EngineerScotty 18:46, 5 February 2006 (UTC), who knows a thing or two about fictional Scots. :)

[edit] Shrek 4?

IMDB has no information on a fourth Shrek movie. References? --EngineerScotty 17:32, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

IMdB ISNT always correct but I Do rember seeing something about A Shrek 3 and 4 in a old nickelodeon magazine when shrek 2 came out71.68.54.47 04:27, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redundancy

It seems the Jokes category's third bullet has a redudancy in it stating the samething twice instead or combining it in oneAkupta321 02:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Richard III

An anon user added the statement "Farquaad's image is taken in whole from Richard III (National Portrait Gallery and Society of Antiquaries portraits)". The same user altered the Richard III page to say that Shrek is "the most visually accurate moving image of Richard III". I've edited the other page to tone down the statement, but this information on both pages seems to me to need verification. Should these statements be removed? Romalar 19:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I'd have to double check but I remember something from interviews from the makers that Farquaad was based on Michael Eisner from Disney Pnkrockr 17:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Derivation of the name

The name Shrek is taken from the Yiddish word שרעק (pronounced Shreck) meaning 'fear', 'terror', or (in its closest sense) 'fright', and the German "Schreck" with the same meaning.

Any source for this? Has his creator actually identified either the Yiddidh or German words the origin, or is this just speculation really? Flapdragon 18:28, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

There might be a source, but it's hardly necessary. It is highly unlikely that William Steig, whose parents were Polish Jews (and hence spoke Yiddish), would have called his fearsome title character Shrek without knowing that it was the Yiddish word for "fear." marbeh raglaim 18:31, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] References

Can someone slap a "This article does not cite it's references" tag on...? Because I don't see one reference in the entire article, just external links and notes. --Hitsuji Kinno 04:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] addition to fiona fight

Hi, this was removed because it was badly worded, can someone help me ? i'm not a native english speaker. thanks :

1. 20:00, 22 December 2006 Treyt021 (Talk | contribs) (removed badly worded addition)
2. 19:59, 22 December 2006 209.47.172.20 (Talk)

Still in the same fight, there are references to others fights : ghost in the shell (when major fight some clueless crook) and the fifth element (when mila jovovitch fight alien in the orange room)

done, thanks LelandParrish 02:38, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed Pinocchio merge

I notice despite being tagged for a month, no-one has commented on the propsed merge. Does that mean it's not a well supported idea? I think it shouldn't be merged as the Shrek article is pretty long as it is and it would be a bit strange for only one of the many characters who have articles to be merged. Merging them all would make it very long. Mallanox 23:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

sure. maybe nobody commented because nobody cares if it's included or not. i think it should, for the same reasons. LelandParrish 02:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I gotta say its just some random facts about Pinocchio. If someone made a whole article about all the characters in the movie, it would be better. Yeah? Smashman2004 (talk • contribs • email) 19:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I have just searched and i have noticed there are are lots of Shrek character articles and if Pinocchio is included in this article that would be a little random. I think that as I said before there should be a Shrek Character article. Smashman2004 (talk • contribs • email) 19:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

If it was actually an original character, or at least a revival of an otherwise obscure fairy tale figure, it would be reasonable to have a separate article, but we're talking Pinocchio here. Give the fancruft a rest...

Peter ^Isotalo 17:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

The quality of the movie screenshot images (taken with a digital camera of all things...) are of terrible quality and are much too large for fair use images. Can someone take some direct digital captures from the DVD (as in using "Print Screen" while playing the movie)? I would reccomend using Media Player Classic, as it doesn't use overlay displays, which enables screenshots to be taken rather than just a blank black space appearing. I don't own the DVD, otherwise I would fix this myself. Green451 02:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Shrek and Zizek

I added that philosopher Slavoj Zizek wrote an interesting analysis of Shrek in his book Welcome to the desert of the Real. Someone deleted what i added, may I know why? [Hamlet]

[edit] Farquaad

Is Lord Farquaad mentioned too much? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.152.207.153 (talk) 17:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] References in trivia

"The line "That'll do Donkey, that'll do" spoken by Shrek is a reference to the infamous line "That'll do pig, that'll do" spoken in the movie Deliverance following a brutal anal rape scene.

I don't believe a children's movie would reference a "brutal anal rape scene" from Deliverance. This is quite obviously a reference to the infamous line from the children's movie "Babe". Please change. Thanks.