Talk:Silverpilen
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Is this a joke? I have never heard of this.
Fred-Chess 14:25, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Line 18 or the whole metro system
I'm not sure it should say “line 18”, since the different ghost stories about Silverpilen say different lines. In my opinion it involves the whole subway system, not just line 18.
User:Bronks September 10, 2005
- I’m removing the reference to just “line 18”, since many stories/myths/legends (or what ever you want to call them) claims to have seen the train elsewhere. I think this urban legend involves the whole subway system.
User:Bronks September 10, 2005
[edit] References
Does the reference to Klintberg's book really support the entire "legend", with its various versios, as reported in the article? This is the type of article that really needs to be supported with references. When is this Aftonbladet column supposed to have been published, and is that mentioned by Klintberg? Uppland 19:31, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
- Klintberg presents a couple of different versions of ghost stories about Silverpilen. He also refers to a text by Annika Johnansson “Sägner och rykten om Stockholms tunnelbana.” (There is no mentioning of Aftonbladet by Klintberg.) User:Bronks September 10, 2005
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- I agree with you Uppland that this is some hmm... suspect article... As we assume that this is fiction, it should have been invented by some one and spread through some medium. "Råttan i Pizzan" is certainly no scientific book, but a collection of stories by "some people" that seem as reliable as if published by Ding-ding Värld...
- http://www.ss.se/forum/viewtopic.php?start=20&t=1035 mentions the childrens show gave me some clues about the SVT show, material that probably needs to be reinserted...
- and on http://66.249.93.104/search?q=cache:mvU3wsRznCIJ:www.ss.se/forum/printview.php%3Fstart%3D0%26t%3D1035+silverpilen+stockholm&hl=sv&client=firefox-a (hope this google cache works for you) one reads this:
- Det finns ett talesätt som heter ingen rök utan eld. Legenden om silverpilen har inte uppkommit utan orsaker. Faktiskt är det så att en tidigare kulturchef på tidningen Aftonbladet vid namn Agneta Pleijel en gång i tiden skrev en krönika i sin tidning om det mystiska silverfärgade tåget som färdades i Stockholms tunnelbana utan att stanna och ta upp vanliga dödliga trafikanter, vilket måhända är en viktig anledning till mytens uppkomst. Hon tyckte sig ha sett en förare med sjöskumspipa i munnen köra detta spöktåg som aldrig stannade, vilket ledde tankarna till den 'Flygande Holländaren'. Nu är det ju så att legender mår bäst av att hållas vid liv och inte låta sig förklaras. Så jag nöjer mig med än så länge med att förklara att jag har forskat fram den vetenskapliga förklaringen till detta övernaturliga fenomen, men tänker mig inte låta övertygas om att förklara legendens uppkomst, om inte trycket på att så göra blir mig alltför övermäktigt. Vänliga hälsningar Gunnar Eriksson
- Fred-Chess 19:48, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
- *Here is a couple of different webpages (in Swedish) on Silverpilen and it's relations to Kymlinge subwaystation:
http://www.spa.edu.stockholm.se/gymnasiet/elevarb/tunnelbana/kymlinge.htm
http://www.i.kth.se/i00_jol/2005/04/bara-de-dda-stiger-av-i-kymlinge.html
User:Bronks September 10, 2005
- Fred pointed this article out to me, and as the staunch deletionist that I am, I think this should sort under an article about similar urban legends, because I'm sure this is not exclusively Swedish.
- Peter Isotalo 10:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
- It's not - there are similar legends of ghost trains inn the NYC Subway and they too are of a model that was taken out of service. In :os Angeles, people still report seeing the Red Car Streetcars running down what are now the paved streets where the lines once ran. There are also lots of decommissioned subway stops in NYC and sometimes people who ride the train late at night claim that their train stopped at one and took on ghostly passenggers or passengersa dressed from another era. I'll see what I can dig up on this particular train and then those stories I mentioned.Lisapollison 01:15, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
