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[edit] Pure tone audiometry page!
Hi, we were wondering whether you would be able to undivert our page for us please, as we're happy for people to see it now even though it's still a working progress.
Thanks for your help!
PTApete&co —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PTApete&co (talk • contribs) 17:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC).
Excellent. The article is now live. I have introduced what are called wikilinks so readers can easier cross-reference information. This is done by putting [[ before the word or phrase on which wikipedia already has an article, and ]] at the end. I have also started a reference section. You will have references for your article. All you need now do is insert <ref> before the weblink to your reference, or the actual text giving deatils of the book or journal, and then </ref> at the end. I have put in a couple of images. You may introduce more and/or replace the ones I have used. You may also put in some better or additional external links. If you need any more help, let me know. SilkTork 18:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] PTApete &Co and Pure Tone Audiometry page
Thank you for your help. We will need to change some of your changes, cause our page hasn't been marked by our tutor yet. We have to show it too another group next week, and then give our tutor the link the week after that. We will note them down and put them back up after it has been marked, if this is OK with you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PTApete&co (talk • contribs) 11:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC).
Now that the article is live it is open to be edited by anyone. The article is no longer yours - it belongs to the world. It would be inappropriate for you to put the article back to a prior state for your personal interest. You should direct your tutor to the article on your user page, and then show people the live article and how it has grown since you launched it. I'm sure that your tutor is only interested in marking the content of the article, not in the fact that you have put it in the open section of Wiki. If your tutor has any questions about using Wiki please direct your tutor to me. I love the idea of the project, but if your tutor wishes to use this idea again then some advice on the most appropriate way of doing it might be helpful. Regards SilkTork 11:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright tags
Thank you. Our images have disappeared from the main page but our on own user page. They say when you click on the diagram, that we need to put a copyright tag on them I had a look at the copyright tags, but I don't know which one refers to our diagrams, and where to put the tag if I knew which one to stick on. We made the diagrams ourselves, but adapted them from Moore BC. Cochlear Hearing Loss. London: Whurr Publishers; 1998. Can you help? It's a shame to lose the diagrams, as they really help explain the text.PTApete&co 09:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I have just added a public domain tag, as one of the other groups has used this. Could you let me know if this is right? I haven't put on the image page that they were made by us but adapted from Moore, but this can be easily changed, and so can the tag if I got it wrong. The tags aren't easy to understand!PTApete&co 13:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I must have a blip on my PC because I can see no trace of a message to you about your images - nor can I see who removed them from your article. So I can't see the reason given for the removal. There may be an issue in regards of how closely you have copied the data that is the basis of your diagrams - the data itself may be copyright, even though you drew the diagram yourself. I did a quick search but I couldn't find the diagrams upon which you based your diagrams. Was the original data in a diagram format? SilkTork 19:26, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I clicked on the images when viewing our user page, and it had a message in a box saying that they didn't have a copyright tag, and would be deleted unless one was added. The diagrams were visible, I was making some changes to the text and then after I had saved the page, they had gone. The same thing happened today I added prestin into the see also section, and merged dead region and how dead rgions affect audiograms into one section, and even though the text is there in the edit this page, it has disappeared from the live page. I am not sure what I did wrong. It was someone else who created the diagrams, but I am almost 100% certain that these diagrams are based on diagrams in the Moore book. PTApete&co 22:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
I looked again. It appears that you deleted the images yourself, along with a good deal of text. I have restored the article to the state it was in before your last two edits. I then restored an edit by another editor. Your last two edits I have not restored as they appeared to delete material rather than add anything. Sometimes mistakes occur. You roll the mouse and delete text without noticing. The beauty of Wiki is that nothing is lost. We can always roll back to a previous version. It's frustrating that work you did in your last edits has been lost - a more careful look at the edits may reveal a neater way of restoring the material than I have found; but at least at the moment you have the images and lost text back. SilkTork 23:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I think I did roll my mouse! PTApete&co 08:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pure tone audiometry page is finished!!!
Hi.
I have added all our extras bits to the old bits & your bits. The only change we made is changing the Wiki link for "brainstem" to a Wiki link for "auditory brainstem response", as this is the procedure we were referring to, and it gives more info. Hope this is OK.
On our user page the cohclea pic was bigger. Can you see if you like the picture bigger,or as a thumb. Cause I copied and paste the text from our page into the live page, and I forgot we had made it bigger and it was originally a thumb.
There were two duplicates in ours and your external refs, so I combined them. All the others are as they were, except put the name in for Springerlink.com, as it was[1].
I even know how to do a Wiki link for a section within another page, and call it what it needs to be in the text!!! Impressive, hey!
Thanks for our award it is really cool, and for all your help.
I look forward to seeing how the page evolves from here. So technically a Wiki page is never finished!
PTApete&co 19:22, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Well done - I should think you guys are quite pleased with the article. You are right that an article is never finished. People will continue to tinker with it. However, I have a feeling that your article won't have much editing done to it. I have written a few articles which even a year later remain pretty much as I originally wrote them. That's very satisfying - the knowledge that nobody can better what you have done. Check back now and again and take a look at the history page to see if anyone has improved or vandalised (does happen!) your article. Warm regards SilkTork 17:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Pure tone audiometry page!
Hello again. I thought I would see how the PTA page was doing, and someone has added a "this article is not catergorised" tag. I don't understand why, as you catergorised it as otology. Wondered if you could take a look please? It seems a bit trivial, when the stuff above looks rather complicated! PTApete&co 19:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I've restored it. What happened is that on the Revision as of 19:52, 14 March 2007, you merged material from your user page. On your user page version I had shown the Category with a : in front - this is a Wiki code that means the article does not show in the Category. When it went live I removed the :. On that revision the : reappeared, thus the article gave the appearance of being categorised, but it wasn't. The editor who put the uncat tag on the article was using a semi-automatic bot called AWB which searches for problems within an article and either corrects them or points them out. Editors using AWB often work very quickly, so he didn't pay that close attention. A cat with a : in front of it is rather unusual for an article page, such a thing normally only occurs on talk pages or user pages. Anyway - all is now well! SilkTork 19:41, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you PTApete&co 08:44, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
