Talk:Slobbovia
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[edit] Legacy
The claim that the meme of crottled greeps originated in Slobbovia had bothered me for a little while; I remembered seeing reference to it elsewhere in SF fandom. It in fact predates Slobbovia by some years: Dean Grennell's fanzine FILLER in 1953, in which in issue #378 we find the question "But if you don't like crottled greeps, what did you order them for?" MarkVolundNYC 10:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
I am fairly certain that "crottled greeps" migrated into Slobbovia, rather than directly out of it. They appeared in a variety of places in the Diplomacy hobby, which had strong ties to the science fiction fan community. A quick perusal of the internet reveals references that predate Slobbovia.
On the subject of the origins of the actual Zhurnal's early years, I once had a letter from one of the original players (James Ritchie) that outlined it, but it is lost in time (or perhaps buried in my box of Zhurnals, which I have begun to poke through again). If any of the players can clean up the area on that, please do so (it is flatly credited to Charles Sharp at the moment). BCNU - Two-Tonic Knight 21:40, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've edited the article to more accurately reflect the role of crottled greeps, among other things. It would be interesting to know which of the players actually introduced them; they were already well established in Slobbovian "reality" when I joined. MarkVolundNYC 19:31, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
