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Why are there links to spanish sites in the english wikipedia?
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Removed the following hilited sections because they're not really approporiate:
Smalltalk is a dynamically typed object oriented programming language designed with great love and foresight at Xerox PARC, the birth place of many good things, by Adele Goldberg?, Dan Ingalls?, Alan Kay, Ted Kaehler? and others during the 1970s.
Did Adele Goldberg actually help design Smalltalk, or just write the books? This page mentions lots of things she's done, but when it comes to Smalltalk, it just says, "Solely and with others, Adele wrote the definitive books on the Smalltalk-80 programming system". -- Oliver P. 02:30 15 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Adele collaborated directly with the group from an early stage, so that would seem to count as helping design the language. Sorry I don't have a reference handy. -Lex (lex@cc.gatech.edu) 31 Oct 2004
"widely believed" to be such a great language? By whom? I am a programmer and heavily involved in open-source development, and I have barely even heard of it, let alone believe it to be great. Jeeves 18:42, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
The fact that somebody has not heard of a language does not prove that it is not a great language. You can learn more about it at: WhySmalltalk. BTW, one of the early pioneers of Wiki technology is a Smalltalker i.e. Ward Cunningham. My final comments is that not only is Smalltalk a great language because of what it can currently do but also because of what it has inspired to do. -Charles
- Similar things could be said about any language, by its fans. Remove. Fredrik 18:45, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- Removed "In spite of its 20-year history, it is widely believed that the overall programming experience and productivity of Smalltalk is still unsurpassed by other development environments." Fredrik 19:05, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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- The overall programming experience is a big deal for Smalltalk, though. It and the Lisp Machine are the exemplars for what might be called the "dynamic programming style" where you edit live programs and where the code is available for everything you see. Dropping the value judgement is fine, but someone with more time than me should try to write something about the dynamic programming style. Smalltalk isn't just a language. -Lex (lex@cc.gatech.edu) 31 Oct 2004
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- Alan Kay won the A.M. Turing Award (2003) because of Smalltalk.So isn't it a great language? -Kamishiro Maiku 13:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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The "Hello world" example is hardly illustrative. - Furrykef 14:37, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- I fleshed it out using what I know from Squeak. Is the Transcript object Squeak-specific? - Furrykef 11:36, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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- Transcript is available in most Smalltalks. I think "Transcript show: 'hello, world'" is actually an excellent way to show how message sending works and how Smalltalk's syntax looks. I've updated the "hello, world" example to talk about this. -Lex (lex@cc.gatech.edu), 31 Oct 2004
Lex, the "Hello world" example does hardly reflect the nature of Smalltalk. In Smalltalk-80 and Squeak, use
- 'Hello, World!' asParagraph displayOn: Display at: Sensor waitButton
- This expression is useful for doIt, for printIt and for inspectIt and exhibits the interplay of text, the Display and the Sensor. Many illuminating facets of #asParagraph, #displayOn:at: and #waitButton could be shown to the curious. -kwl (people.squeakfoundation.org/person/kwl/), 8 Nov 2006
IBM is dumping Smalltalk? Are you sure? Please provide a reference on the page if so. IBM is normally quite good at supporting products that its customers are using. That's a selling point of both IBM and Smalltalk: they've been around, and will continue to be around. Smalltalk is not massively popular in industry, but let's not get carried away -- it gets SOME industry use. -Lex (lex@cc.gatech.edu) 31 Oct 2004
