Talk:Solutions provider

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Please sign your posts! . mikka (t) 18:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

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This is a merge of Solutions Provider and Independent Solutions Provider, stripped of apparent original research and apparent advertising. -- Anon.

I do not agree to merge ISP and SP into vendor independent solutions providers. Also ISP and SP are not the same thig. I agree to merge them into Solutions Providers however. Because Solutions Providers are more large than ISP. The best would be to have two pages: one for Solutions Providers and other for Independent Solutions Providers. They are completly diferent thiungs An ISP is not just an SP that is independent excepting some rare cases.

For example, Solutions providers may be:

• linux related, they realy do not provide any product i think, since they only provide eventualy a service of how to find Solutions Providers. They seem independent but they are also influenced by Mandriva Linux actualy.
• lonetre - the say they are Internet Solutions Provider: they are providing the solutions itself so that are simple Solution Providers.

ISPs may be:

• healtcare solutions providers - they say that are solutions providrs. We cannot chack how independent they are, but they seem to be independent (even if they do not say that) because they do not provide solutions, but they only help people find a real Solutions Provider (who are the the hospitals and the doctors). Note that they provide a service that is not necessary related to business (it is related to healtcare of people).
• they also say are independent.
• other example
• other example

This independece is related to the independence with a selling product (or proprietary for software). For example MySQL AB is providing services related to the open-source database MySQL. This database is Free Software. We can say MySQL AB is not an Independent Solutions Probvider, but it is the Solution Provider of this database product.

Because MySQL is free, there are other companies that provide services for this product. For example Dell and Novell (but also local like IdealX and Linagora in France). Since MySQL is free, this companies can (if they want) not anly provide the service but also the product. In this case they are Solutions Providers. If, more, they decide to provide services and guidace also for PostgreSQL and other, they are realy both Independent Solutions Providers and Solutions Providers for the open source products thay provide.

Conclusion:

• Solutions Providers provide always:
  • a product (MySQL, Oracle, etc)
  • a final service (healtcare service to the client)
  • etc
• Independent Solutions Providers always provide either:
  • a service related to a (proprietary) product that they are not linked with
  • a servise related to a free software product if they are not the original providers and it they also provide services for other similar products
  • the service may be either only to help someone find the product he neads, nothing more, and can go up to helping the client to deploy the product. The product in itself may be either a software or a healtcare service or even more.

Solution Providers provide a product and/or a service associated with the product if there is a product.

Independent Solutions Providers provide only the service associated so someone elses product, or if the product is free (in the spirit of free software and open source), they may provide both the product and the service. sigining: Moa3333 18:15, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Please sign your posts!mikka (t) 18:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

This seems to be a new topic to wikipedia. Therefore I suggest to start from a single article. It will make it easier to avoid duplications and see distinctions clearly in a single text. Once the article matures, it is quite common for wikipedia to spawn a separate article for more narrow notions. mikka (t) 18:10, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

ISP is a confusing acronym - Independent Solutions Provider is irrelevant in comparison to Internet Service Provider (10,000 vs 10,000,000 hits according to google). Surely something like VISP would be more appropriate? samj 10:43, 12 February 2007 (UTC)