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Very little to go on here. Is this really a contemporary term? What makes this a group with such a name? Wetman 05:39, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Why is it that I cannot find anything on this supposed movement in the Catholic Encyclopedia? The text of the article is very suspicious and betrays a Protestant, anti-Catholic bias. And it is improbable that Caraffa and Reginald de la Pole were together in the same ideological movement given that Caraffa (Pope Paul IV) was as deeply suspicious of De la Pole of having become (secret) Protestant as much as Giovanni Morone! And it is the greatest nonsense to pretend that the virulently (even paranoidly) anti-Protestant Pope Paul IV (sho imprisoned Cardinal Morone for being a suspected secret Protestant, and who denounced De la Pole as another) was a "secret" pro-Protestant! The article on Cardinal Contarini only betrays this false and mischievous bias even further. Again, in fact, the true involvement of these men with persuading the popes to approve the Jesuits go contrary to the pro-Protestant pretensions of these entries. It seems that the principal source of information is the "Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religion". This is improbabilities heaped upon improbabilities! I strongly believe that this "Spirituali Movement" is pure fabrication and never existed, at least not with the persons named as its alleged members! WikiSceptic 19:05, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
I've found some evidence of it as a primarily Venetian movement with some Spanish influences.[1] The article in the Catholic Encyclopedia alludes at Gasparo Contarini having views like this.[2] Admittedly I'm not sure I found much for a movement of this outside Venice.--T. Anthony 10:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

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