Talk:Stephon Marbury

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[edit] Bias

Rightly or wrongly, this page is very much anti-Stephon Marbury. While I do not know much information on Marbury, maybe someone with more knowledge can make it more unbiased.

How could you be "pro-Marbury"? Lol.

Looking at his career stats it's easy to see that in the right situation, he has been and will be a very solid contributor. Because of the reputation he has acquired, he has a tendency to get blamed for the lack of success of any endeavor of which he is a part. Wait a little bit for all of the Knicks to be healthy (at which point they will start winning) and a lot of people are going to be pro-Marbury. No reason to laugh out loud. --Tractorkingsfan 02:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

i got rid of some non-NPOV stuff like saying he was an asshole and calling isaiah thomas mentally challenged.--Alhutch 06:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

I got rid of this: They don't particularly like each other and have had a long-standing rivalry within the family. [1] because several weeks ago, Sebastian Telfair, on Steven A. Smith's ESPN talk show, discussing his documentary "Through the Fire" about Telfair's jump from HS to the NBA, Telfair told Smith that "his cousin (Marbury) was always there for me when I needed him."

Consequently, I think that it is fair to say that the "feud" is diffused and using the New York Daily News as a source, given the tabloid nature of that paper seems to be a bad idea, anyway.

i don't know who compares marbury to kobe. for one thing, their styles of play aren't really all that similiar. Dychoi 09:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

It's hard to make Stephon Marbury sound better because of all the negative things that surround him. The fact that the Nets and the Suns significantly improved the season after trading Marbury is a hard truth to counter.

I think that the comparisons between him and Kobe are about their attitude towards the game. That both players demand having the ball as much as possible.

In terms of personal opinion though, I lay most of the blame for this 2005-2006 season on Larry Brown. Mainly because he knew what team has was getting into did not have many veterans and primarily consisted of young players, who historically have not really been played that much by Brown. Larry Brown is a really good coach when he has the right pieces but he is not a diverse coach who can handle any situation. --Lonewolf26X 04:25, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

re: how can you not really like marbury - First of all, can you really criticize Marbury for not being as good as Jason Kidd, one of the best point guards of all time??? Oh, and he left Phoenix for Steve Nash who, since his arrival in Phoenix, has been the best point guard in the NBA. That argument makes no sense. And if you want to continue pushing it, look at the nets and the suns in the season before he left--

Furthermore, regarding the improvement of the teams he's left, look at the roster of he nets before and after Marbury left. The summer after marbury was traded, the nets had the #7 pick in the draft. They traded that pick for 3 guys, one of whom is nearly an all star (richard jefferson), and the other of whom was key in their runs deep in the playoffs (Jason Collins (yes he sucks now, but he was very solid then)). Not only that, they replaced Johnny Newman, a guy who should have already retired at that point, with Kerry Kittles, who turned into their third scorer and whose super speed perfectly suited kidd's running game. The Net's argument that Marbury hurt their team clearly holds no water.

Other than the fact that 2 time MVP steve nash is a great player, there were several factors that contributed to the suns' turnaround. in 2004 with marbury gone and no nash yet, both Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudemire, the 2nd and 3rd most important players in the Suns' turnaround, were forced to learn how to score on their own. These guys were still coming into their own in marbury's last full season, Johnson was 21 and Stoudemire was 20. It is very rare that you have a team with 2 major contributors that young that is successful. It is absurd to try to say that Marbury played with the same Joe Johnson and Amare Stoudemire in 2003 that Nash got to play with in 2005. Obviously Nash's passing had somethign to do with these guys' transformation too, but there isn't another player in the NBA who can do what Nash has been doing in Phoenix.

Now I'm sorry for this rant, but it's totally illogical to play like marbury is some selfish team killer. He is not steve nash, he is not jason kidd, but he is a very talented player. I don't believe there is any good evidence to say that he is a team killer, and having been an avid NBA fan for the last 10 years or so, it irritates me to see how people enjoy hating on him. In short, I request that you post here if you feel the need to add in to the artilce some garbage about how marbury sucks.Maxterpiece

[edit] WP:BLP

I don't know much about Stephon Marbury, but there's a ton of negative material here that is unsourced. According to WP:BLP, this information should be immediately removed. I'm in the process of removing a lot of this material. It looks like a lot of it could be verified with references, if someone who knows more about basketball wants to add it back, go ahead and add it back with some references. Cogswobble 16:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)