Talk:Street fundraiser

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"The aquisition of funds through face to face street donations has been shown to be the most cost effective method of fundraising for charities compared to costly (and often ineffective) television, radio and newspaper campaigns. By securing long term donations, charities are able to plan future campaigns in the knowledge that they have a guaranteed amount of money to work with. Street fundraisers also serve to raise awareness of small charities and highlight the importance of new campaigns in larger more well known organisations."

All very well, but surely a distinction needs to be drawn between street fundraisers who work on an entirely voluntary basis, and the professional "chuggers" who receive a wage and often commission for their efforts.

I don't know about other countries, but in the UK a "chugger" is paid a basic wage of around GBP8 - GBP10 per hour, which is well above the UK minimum wage, and above the average wage of many UK cities (particularly those in northern England). That alone should tell you why "chuggers" are reviled to the extent that they are - they're effectively sponging off the moral fibre of those less fortunate than themselves. --217.155.20.163 01:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Chuggers seem be backpacker careerists and are rather different to tin rattling volunteers on a high street. Hence they should be split as long as there are links to each separate page to enable comparisons to be made.

Contents 1 The move 2 Split 3 Street fundraisers 4 Comprehensive rewrite

[edit] The move

It was suggested that this article should be renamed chugger. The vote is shown below:

• Oppose. Instead move to street fundraiser or something similar. "Charity mugger" is bad POV. "Chugger" is both bad POV and badly colloquial, derogatory even. We can keep various redirects, but lets try to aim for something vaguely NPOV in the article's actual title. Dragons flight July 8, 2005 01:31 (UTC)

• • I agree and have moved it there and organised the article. violet/riga (t) 20:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Split

• I suggest splitting off the "chugger" section entirely as it is perhaps a different thing from street fundraising. Perhaps make that segment into an article "Face to Face Fundraiser" (their official title) with redirect from "chugger" and "charity mugger". Stifle 23:39, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Do you mean people who collect small cash donations as opposed to those who solicit monthly bank payments? --TimPope 17:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Someone collecting small cash donations is a street fundraiser. Someone soliciting monthly bank payments is a chugger. Apologies for the confusion. Stifle 00:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Street fundraisers

Most Streetfunderraisers are unpaid aren't they (as opposed to what it says in the article)?

--Charlesknight 13:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Stifle (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

To clarify, the folks who want standing orders are (well) paid, those who look for coins generally aren't. Stifle (talk) 21:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comprehensive rewrite

The article as it stood was appallingly biased. It contained multiple uses of the coloquialism 'chugger' instead of 'street fundraiser' which is unacceptable and breaks Wikipedia's fundamental principle of a neutral point of view. [1]. The links section also needs rebalancing, with almost all of the linked articles having a mostly negative attitude to the subject.

18/11/06- added more links to address the unbalanced (nagative) focus of the section previously