Talk:Table of Chinese monarchs
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What's about dividing this page into several pages according to the dynasty? (Like Table of Chinese monarchs/Qing dynasty) It's really long enough to wait. And using brackets is better than '|', IMO. --FallingInLoveWithPitoc 15:07, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- These tables are the original copies and may not be as up-to-date as the current lists in each of the dynasty articles. 大将军, 都督中外诸军事 (talk) 03:57, 24 Dec 2003 (UTC)
When you click on "Zhu" (7th in list), it takes you to Chopsticks. I have no idea what to do about that.
I had an idea. Maybe we could split this page up by having Table of Chinese emperors of the major dynasties, which would basically be the Qin, Han, maybe the Jin for good measure, the Sui, the Tang, the Song, maybe the other Jin, the Yuan, the Ming, and the Qing. Then we could link to other pages for the lists of emperors from the various and sundries. All the stuff in between Jin and Sui is taking up a lot of space and probably distracting readers from more pertinent information. - Nat Krause 14:20, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Absolutely. This article is way too long and splitting it into sections would definitely help. And we already have separate articles for the sovereigns of the Ming and Qing Dynasties.
- I think this page should be remade into a sort of "contents page", with a list of all the articles listing the sovereigns for each dynasty. -- [[User:Ran|ran (talk)]] 06:18, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
I still feel that there is some utility to having a master list showing the emperors from important dynasties in one place, along with links to minor dynasties. I should have time to get started on shifting things around soon. I'd like to solicit comments, though, on what should be considered major dynasties in this context. My initial thought is to include every dynasty which controlled the whole country, and only those claiming the title of 皇帝 (i.e. Qin and later). The only odd thing about this is that it would include the (Sima-family) Jin Dynasty, in addition to: Qin, Han, Sui, Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming, and Qing. Any thoughts? - Nat Krause 06:39, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Such a list would have holes in it all over the place... I think a list that's not comprehensive is not a good idea; it's almost like having a list of all the counties of China in every province, except provinces that aren't big enough... -- [[User:Ran|ran (talk)]] 02:18, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure that I what the potential problem is. The history of China's monarchy is itself full of holes, so it's natural that a list of monarchs would have holes. Having a list of the major counties in China doesn't strike me as, perforce, a bad idea, although I don't think that it's warranted in that particular case. But check out, for instance, List of cities in the United States. - Nat Krause 08:58, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- There's a difference between having a list of major counties, and having a list of counties in major provinces. The former has some merit, the latter is just strange. Same goes with having a list of major emperors, and having a list of emperors of major dynasties. -- [[User:Ran|ran (talk)]] 23:18, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure that's true as a general statement. It would be weird under the current circumstances, where the provinces and counties are divided in a fairly clear-cut way. If there were cases where the division into counties or the status of the provinces were in doubt, then I would think that it would be fairly reasonable to have a list with only some of the provinces. I think the situation with China's monarchs is analagous. - Nat Krause 07:43, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I still think having exhaustive lists for major dynasties only is analogous to having such lists for major provinces. In a list of major Chinese cities, should we leave out major cities in a minor provinces in return for minor cities in major provinces? Similarly, are we going to throw in the emperors of the late Han or Tang Dynasties who lasted a few months each, and exclude major emperors of (say) the Northern and Southern Dynasties? Surely a list of major cities in all provinces (regardless of province), and a list of major emperors in all dynasties (regardless of dynasty), make for a better summary of emperors (or cities), if one is ever needed?
- In fact, I still think that the best way is to make this page into an index of emperor lists, by dynasty. Each emperor list can be on its own page.
- For comparison, take a look at this:
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- Which is basically an index of county lists.-- [[User:Ran|ran (talk)]] 17:49, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] What's real and what's not...
Why are the legendary emperors of the Xia Dynasty listed here but not the Three August Ones and Five Emperors? elvenscout742 01:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- I already added 3 august ones(or sovereigns/sages) and five emperors to the table, and finally found that we all don`t know the name of Huang Di`s son who succeeded the throne before Gaoyang A tumiwa 09:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
