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[edit] Taipei Mayor

Taipei Mayor is a different person now, should be updated.

[edit] waste disposal

Can someone add something about the waste disposal program of the municipal government? I think that the program is more advanced than many of the world's big cities, it deserve some notations. --128.8.8.248 12:00, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Official name et al

Added some data.

Also the statement that Taipei is the capital of Taiwan needed to be clarified a bit. Taipei is the provisional national capital of the Republic of China but it is not the capital of Taiwan province which is in Chung-hsing-hsin-tsun.

Wouldn't the Pinyin spelling be Taibei? Can someone comment on this? -- Anon

I realize that PRC doesn't recognize ROC. I guess that they would thus refuse to consider Taipei the "capitol" of anything.

If there is a dispute, let's write about the dispute in the article. Who says Taipei is a national capitol? Who says it's not? --Ed Poor

Taipei is spelled in Wade-Giles system.

And I don't think we shall write dispute in the article. After all, ROC doesn't recognize PRC as well, so shall we write that "Beijing is not recognised as a national capital by ROC" too? --formulax

Taipei is actually a simplification of the Wade-Giles spelling T'aipei. But I think no one spells Taibei except in PRC official documents since Taipei is now well-established as the official name of the city. --W S Kuo

True, that's why our article title is Taipei, not Taibei. --Menchi (Talk)a 06:06, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Yes. For what it's worth, Taiwan recently went through a lot of trouble to change to use the Pinyin that mainland China does (eg: change Tam-shui to Dan-shui), but they left the spelling of Taipei alone. I think it'll be Taipei for a long, long time. PhiloVivero 11:58, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Taipei is a simplification of the correct Wade-Giles spelling T'ai-pei. There's always a dash in between.

[edit] District romanization

Why are the districts wikified in their Tongyong Pinyin romanization? Didn't Taipei adopt Hanyu Pinyin, according to our pinyin article? --Jiang | Talk 20:34, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Because I copied the Tonyyong from Ministry of the Interior's nice website without giving second thoughts. >_<

I just checked out some districts' official sites that'd show the difference (eg Zhongzheng and Shilin), and they used Hanyu. Will change now. --Menchi (Talk)a 06:06, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Photo captiion

I added an image of Taipei, but I can't remember the name of the TRTS station for the image caption. I think it's Zhong-shan but don't want to put something incorrect, so I left it ambiguous. Also, I do not know the name of the hill from which the photograph was taken. It is a hill adjacent to Da-an and... Zhong-shan? Does anyone know the name of that hill? It's the hill upon which the famous gigantic hotel sits, whose name I also forget. Sorry. I'm a westerner. I forget these things. PhiloVivero 12:00, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Being a westerner is no excuse! You can only blame your puny engramme! (kidding) I don't know the station, but the "gigantic hotel" = The Grand Hotel perhaps. --Menchi 19:39, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The station name is "Jiantan", and the hill name is "Jiantan Shan". Sichinaren 10:40, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Err.... I live at the foot of that hill and have never heard it referred to as anything but Yuan-Shan.

Correction: Apparently the main peak is indeed called Jiantan Shan which is part of the Yuan Shan Scenic Area. Loren 04:47, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Romanization

Romanizations should always include Hanyu Pinyin, and Wade Giles in special cases. Other romanizations is unnecessary unless it is exclusively used and widely accepted. Apparently POJ is not the case here. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (China-related articles) for more information. -- 59.121.191.201 06:20, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

I also maintain that Tongyong Pinyin should not be used in any place where it can be avoided. Taipei City is one such place; Taipei County, however, has unfortunately officially adopted it and thus it cannot be avoided. Tongyong was created for purely political purposes and is rejected by the KMT and most of the world; it is only used in DPP-controlled areas and is thus subject to being scrapped whenever the KMT take control of a region of Taiwan. In summary, any article on Taipei should not include Tongyong Pinyin. - Bubbha (June 25, 2006)

[edit] Sister City

This is kinda weird, as the Seoul metropolitan government websites indicates the sister city relationship between Seoul and Taipei began in 1968 [1], but I see this page has it as 1967. I'm assuming the Taipei government website indicates the sister-city relationship with Seoul began in 1967. Anyone want to clarify this? Regards, Deiaemeth 23:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

This government site [2] puts the date as 1968. I'll make the changes :-). Regards, Deiaemeth 00:00, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Quezon city is also listead as 1967 - [3] puts it as 1968. Deiaemeth 00:02, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Find someone to edit it...

I just dropped by for info, and found that in a paragraph of the History section:

In the late 19th century, the Taipei area, where the major Han settlements in northern Republic of China [...]. In 1875, the northern part of Republic of China was separated from Taiwan Prefecture (臺灣府) and incorporated into the new Taipei Prefecture (臺北府).

There must be some idiot who used bots to change "Taiwan" into "Republic of China"-- but oblivious to the fact that RoC didn't even exist at the time this paragraph is talking about!

However, due to the sensitivity of the legal status of Taiwan, I ain't sure if my proposed edit (to "Taiwan province, since at that time Taiwan is a province of Qing Dynasty) is political correct or not, so I need to make sure... --Samuel Curtis 13:12, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The changes were made by 210.64.211.250 (talk • contribs). I believe I have changed back most of them. "Taiwan" is perfectly fine in a geographical context. -Loren 16:25, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Taipei City Seal Crisis

A certain user forbids the use of Image:Taipei_City_seal.png on any templates dealing with Taipei City because the user argues that since the seal is used under fair use, it can only exist on the Taipei City article and no where else. (It would be interesting to see how this would affect the use of the seal of the State of California or the City of San Francisco.). Quite frankly, the Taipei City Flag is seldom used anymore to represent the city to the point that some people actually think that the seal represents the city, so I feel somewhat upset. Is there any solution to this problem? I did originally create a self-made power point version of the Taipei City Seal (see [4]) before it was replaced by another user with a seal directly from the Taipei City government. Would it be possible for me to reinstate the version that I originally created and have it licensed under GFDL? Allentchang 08:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

The simplest way around this would be to simply hardcode the contents of the template onto the article itself. If the fair use item is in article-space then it would seem to circumvent the objection that a fair-use image can't be used outside articles (not that I agree with that POV, but I really don't feel like contesting it at the moment). -Loren 09:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I just made an userbox for people from Taipei, since residents of other major cities already have their own city userbox. Just wondering if we can use the city seal in the userbox Nikko 17:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Userage: {{User Taipei}} , and it looks like

This user lives or hails from Taipei.

OK.. it seems like use of city seal is not allowed. I changed it a Taipei101 icon that I made, but it's kinda ugly since it black. If someone have better idea, please change it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MyNikko (talk ‧ contribs) 08:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] "People from Taipei" category?

There is no "People from Taipei" category? Badagnani 18:11, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gamma World City?

That's an obscure information tidbit, and doesn't belong at the head of the article, imho. Kaicarver 12:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

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