Talk:Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby

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Contents 1 French bashing 2 Ricky's car? 2.1 What is Ricky's Dads car? 3 Susan always wearing the same sweater? 4 Product placement? 5 The name Ricky Bobby and trivia 6 Misheard dialogue 7 Product Placement Trivia 8 Plot Synopsis 9 Formula One Trivia 10 Aarons 312 Wreck 11 Trivia 12 Trivia (IMDB/Wiki)

[edit] French bashing

It makes sense for this movie to have a french character as the main villain, when you consider who is the target audience, nascar fans, and I always considerd nascar fans to be more or less homogenouse when it comes to their political views and affiliations. -User:pallfy 08:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Condescending comments regarding stereotyped "NASCAR fans" might carry more weight were they spelled correctly.

Uh, from what I can tell NASCAR fans get the broadside of most of jokes themselves. -CS

• If you listen closely,at some points,Ferrel slips into his Dubya imitiation too,so it's also an allusion,to the American animosity over France's refusal to join in condemning and attacking Iraq,and much of President Bush's with us or against us absolutist stance. Sochwa 04:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

• • Really? I just thought it was a silly comedy. You people might be reading a bit much into it. Dubc0724 16:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

• • • I Loved The Movie And I'm VERY Liberal Politically Speaking, I Think The Film Is More A Spoof On Those Stereotypical Racist Ideologies Than It Is A Nod To Them, I Mean Look At The People Who Are Being 'Anti-French', They're Idiots And Portrayed As Such, Look At The French Man. Intelligent, Rational (Most Of The Time) And Skilled. As Soon As Ricky Bobby Reaches The End Of His Charactar Arc Accepts Their Differences (For Almost 20 Seconds After He Wins The Race) .

Echud123456 17:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

• • • • Hey! That's A Good Point You're Making There! 86.150.211.165 20:38, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ricky's car?

Does anyone know what make of car Ricky Bobby drives- Ford, Chevy, or Dodge? I'm just curious. I can't make out the make of his car(I have a hunch it is the Ford Fusion but I could be wrong).

It's a Monte Carlo, accordng to the diecasts. 152.163.100.6 16:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Later in the movie he drives a Ford Taurus. You can tell this movie was shot in October of 2005 as they were still using the Taurus instead of the Ford Fusion.

[edit] What is Ricky's Dads car?

What is Ricky's dads car? A chevy Chevelle Baseracer 22:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Susan always wearing the same sweater?

Symbolism to show that she is constant and loyal unlike everything else in RB's life?

[edit] Product placement?

Was the copious mention of powerade and wonderbread, as well as the appleby's add near the climax of the film an intentional part of the script, or were the makers of the film paid for all the product placement? I suspect the truth lies somewhere in between, but the article ought to mention the massive amount of product placement.-70.92.246.98 00:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, since the family does make it a point to go to Applebee's (referred to as gourmet fine dining in the movie), and since it is an Applebee's commercial, I do feel that there is some sort of advertizing going on. Coca-Cola also has a lot of it, with PowerAde and all of the Coke products seen throughout the movie. --CanesOL79 05:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

All of the advertising is a part of the NASCAR experience they're parodying. The commercial spots ("If you don't chew Big Red, then fuck you!"), the "ever-delicious Taco Bell" for the dinner table and the gourmet Applebee's are all part of the joke; they may very well have been paid for the ads, but they're appropriate for the context of the movie. --68.41.210.198 15:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I agree and understand fully. Cars and jumpsuits are decked out with logos and ads, and the movie is obviously spoofing that. But what I think the guy meant was that did the companies have to pay for their names to be used, or were they jused because they were chosen by Ferrell. I would say the former, because there's a "commercial" for Maxipads (or something), and I'm sure Ferrell went out fishing to get that deal in there. --CanesOL79 03:41, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Uh, except that he didn't get a deal for that one. The femenine hygeine product is the only fake brand used the entire movie. Unless I missed something.67.180.142.90 17:12, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I saw on CNN that they were not paid to put those endorsements in, they needed them to make the cars seem real, so they gave free ad space and time................

Are Walker and Texas Ranger the same cursing kids from GUMMO?????????????

[edit] The name Ricky Bobby and trivia

I have removed the trivia stating that Ricky Bobby's name is a combination of Ricky Craven and Bobby Labonte. It could very easily be a reference to Ricky Rudd, Bobby Unser or, more likely, Bobby Allison. WhoIsWillo 02:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Misheard dialogue

I may have misinterpreted the film, but early, as Ricky is signing her head, Susan introduces herself as his(Ricky's) sister. Later on, he makes out in a bar with her, and kisses her after a race. In one of the final scenes, she says that they have had sex. Was the sister angle early in production and later dropped? Or is the incest intended, as NASCAR fans are stereotyped as rednecks, who also are stereotyped to be normally involved in incestuous relationships? 24.32.212.143 14:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Susan introdues herself as his ASSISTANT, probably confused during the commotion as being said as SISTER, i think . =X

The anonymous editor misheard the dialogue. Or is a troll. BabuBhatt 17:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

It was misheard dialog, I watched it again tonight(it's a great film, worth the $16), and it sounded much more like assistant. 24.32.212.143 01:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Product Placement Trivia

Despite the fact that I have provided a reliable and credible link to support my piece of trivia that Wonder Bread, Perrier and Old Spice did not have to pay for thier part in the film, one individual continues to supply misinformation by changing my entry repeatedly. I have tried contacting this user through his or her talk page, but they have so far not responded. The IP address for this user is 24.11.162.67

I honestly don't know what to do next, as most of my wiki experence has been on wikias, and not wikipedia, but it is clear he does not want to listen to me, or just doesn't know how. Regardless, he is adding misinformation to the page for reasons beyond me. Any advice would be helpful. WhoIsWillo 09:23, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

   I hear that Wonder bread and Old Spice have to do advertising on the movie because of that. Perrier did not have advertise.  Baseracer 22:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

That's what the phrase "backend promotion" means. WhoIsWillo 15:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot Synopsis

Are Wiki plot descriptions usually that detailed? That's like a third grade book report summarizing of the movie. Seems like overkill to me.67.180.142.90 17:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

In the theaters, there was a scene that did not appear in the Unrated Version DVD where Ricky gathers his former pit crew after they had been let go. Lucius was working at a carwash, for example. Also the bloopers at the end of the movie in the theaters were not in the Unrated DVD, particularly the hospital scenes where the actors couldn't keep from laughing --much different than the extra coma-scene monologues which appeared on the unrated DVD.

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Also, the scene with Ricky Bobby in his mom's car near the beginning was cut out of the unrated version. Any explaination for these omitions?

[edit] Formula One Trivia

Jean Girard is not seen driving a Minardi F1 car. He's shown driving the dark blue pre-season Williams Cosworth.

[edit] Aarons 312 Wreck

Changed from the original which led users to belive that only 6 cars were on the track at the end of the race. Cited racing-reference.info and nascar.com

[edit] Trivia

Wikipedia guidelines clearly state that trivia is to avoided. I've reorganized the "Trivia" section while retaining most of the info. Uncited stuff, speculation and plain irrelevant statements were removed in accordance with verifiability guidelines. Basically, if you can't back anything up with a third party source, it counts as original research and is ineligible to be used here.Michael Dorosh^Talk 16:17, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

In Addition to this, I've renamed the 'trivia' section from "Other Production Information" to Trivia 219.90.130.111 04:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia (IMDB/Wiki)

In the article it says; "Ben Stiller and Steve Carell were originally cast in the film, but they couldn't accept because of scheduling conflicts."

But at the IMDB trivia page ([1])it says ""Producers pitched the movie idea to studios as: "Six words: Will Ferrell as a Nascar driver.""

It should be fixed, given a reference or just explained. --Plankton5005 04:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The Article currently states "Former Anchorman Co-Stars" then the rest of what was quoted. Ben Stiller was not in Anchorman.

I don't know if I'd say co-stars per se but ben stiller was in anchorman as the leader of the Latin anchor team during the alley fight scene. 65.167.69.42 03:01, 9 January 2007 (UTC)