Talk:Territorial evolution of Mexico
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[edit] Rio Grande/Nueces dispute
I edited to reflect the uncertain nature of the territory between the Rio Grande and and Nueces between the Battle of San Jacinto and the Mexican-American War. Instead of something like "Texas continues to claim large portions of Mexican territory", it now reads "A large area remains in dispute". --YixilTesiphon Say helloBe shallow 14:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- That works. --Golbez 17:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Comments
Great article. Some comments:
- I think its anachronistic to talk about Qro-Arteaga, Mich-Ocampo and Coah-Zaragoza at the points there mentioned at there in the text: those extra names were added later in honor of C19 & C20 local worthies.
- Federal district: yes, created in 1824, but not with its current borders (which later changed a couple of times). See the Mexico City article.
- Aguascalientes - split from Jalisco? or Zacatecas? (And there's a nice Urban legend about "el beso" given to Santa Anna to ensure it's independance.)
All the same, great article and great maps. Aille 18:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- The sourced information I have says Jalisco, if you can find a source that says Zacatecas I'll try to fix it. :) --Golbez 19:08, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
OK: [1], [2], and [3] (pdf) all mention Zacatecas, not Jalisco. The last one also talks of a 'division into 50 departments' under Maximilian which, if we could find a map or more information about, would make an interesting digression for this article. Aille 22:01, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- Even the tiny bit of Spanish I know says that you're right, so I'll alter the maps accordingly and contact my source. And yes, that would be useful. You seem to know enough Spanish, can you verify if this article is correct and if anything is missing? I don't know any, so I figured the best way to vet/improve it was to throw it to the public - and it's obviously working. :) --Golbez 22:09, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Fascinating stuff. Here's a pdf with a list of Emperor Maximilian's 50 departaments (duly numbered from east-to-west with roman numerals; very Napoleonic) and, thanfully, a map. Big errors in the article? None that I can see, but I do recall seeing at least one C19 map where some states (particularly that west-central part, round Jalisco, Zacatecas, SLP -- silver country?) had exclaves; I'll look later. Here's a paper on "Territorial processes in the Mexican West 1823-1917" which, even if you only read the English-language abstract, will give you an idea of the confusion with changing state borders in that area (eg. Mich-Jal settled only in 1897). Aille 22:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- OK, the individual maps have been updated to incorporate the pre-Aguascalientes land into Zacatecas, rather than Jalisco; I'll generate a new animated map too. --Golbez 12:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)