Talk:The Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift
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[edit] Spin Off?
I am not a member of Wikipedia but would still like to make a suggestion if you nice people don't mind. A spin off is considered different to a sequel, am I right? Maybe the intro on the article needs to be changed. As far as I know, it's a sequel. Anon Wiki Person.
Yes, it is a sequel and not a spin off. What do other people think? If nobody responds I will change it because it is incorrect. Universal call the film a sequel. Scoc716 21:49, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I might have to disagree. Since the film has almost nothing to do with the previous two movies one might have to consider it a spin off rather than a sequel. Daniel J. Leivick 03:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
The way I see it, a sequel to a previous movie is in some way logically connected (the audience learns how Brian is reintroduced into the first sequel to the Fast and the Furious movie (FnF). to the plot of the previous movie, or share similar plot characteristics. The first two movies in the Fast and the Furious series are related in that they not only participate in racing events, but also commit crimes such as rig-hijacking (FnF) and drug money laundering/trafficking (2F2F), and behind both of which the protagonist (Brian) participates undercover on behalf of the FBI. I see this film as a spinoff because we have new characters in a new setting, and the focus is on a "unseen" (from the American perspective) racing technique (and the culture and lives of the drivers) rather than a crime-related plot. And in this new setting, cops play a very passive role and make no attempt to enforce the prohibition of these illegal practices.
In summary, sequels should be logically related to the prequel (for lack of a better word). The new movie (FnF:TD) should be seen as a spinoff, or perhaps a new "episode" (as in TV series), mostly unlrelated to previous episodes, but still center around the machines fundamental to the story. The same goes for the production of Batman Begins or Star Wars Episode I as they are prequels to long-established pieces of work. ~~ Peter Shen 163.13.129.121 04:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] CopyVio
The original form of this article seems to have been copied from the Universal press-release for the movie. Is this a copy-violation? I suspect so... but then, dozens of news outlets have printed it verbatim, so maybe press-releases are public domain? Who knows? Maebmij 01:13, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Game link?
Where is the appropriate place for any information about the game of this name published at the end of this month? I think an article should at least be linked to somewhere on this page.
[edit] END IT
If you want to give your critic opinion, go to the Internet movie database or rotten tomatoes. As a reminder, don't make a personal attack on anyone. They may be wrong, but just tell them rather than fire at them. I'll be editing any phrases with personal attacks.Spyco 05:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Excised Rumors and Speculation repost
I'm reposting the info due to the cited sources embedded in the paragraphs. I will provide scans of the Modified magazine editorial for reference in a few days. Also, linkage to a site of spy video footage (which is common in the automotive world for new models and the like) that substantiates the Modified editorial in one aspect and a known website that clearly shows they have casted (and created) cars from all three of the F&F movies is more than creditable enough to warrant inclusion. Cantthinkofausername 23:07, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
- Then can we at least change the section title? It makes no sense for them to be 'rumours' now that they have been confirmed. --Stretch 10:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] song in the trailer
does anyone know what song they used at the end of the trailer?
the one with "almost over now" lyrics in it.
kthx :)
Dstan 09:31, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
I was wondering that myself. I know it's N*E*R*D's Rock Star but it's not the Radio version. Anyone know anything else?
XP_V1
Problem solved, It's the Jason Nevins re-mix of Rock Star.
XP_V1
What's the name of the song that's played in the background as Neela and Sean are drifting with a group of cars through the mountains?
What are the lyrics to it? Does it sound anything like this: This is the slam/this is the one/we gonna do it like it ain't been done before/this is the slam/this is the one/we gonna spring you like you ain't been sprung? If so, then it is called "The Slam", and it is by rapper tobyMac. If what I put is not what you heard, I am sorry I could not help you. I know that song is on a trailer for that movie, as well as many other commercials. Later!!! Chili14 (Talk) 02:27, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wow!
I just ADORE Keiko Kitagawa-san! I like her work, I hope she does well in this movie like she did in Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon. --User:Angie Y.
- Thank you for your comments. While we appreciate your thoughts, for future reference, the discussion ("talk") pages of articles are not for comments about the topic, but instead for comments on how to improve the article or questions regarding editorial integrity. We are not a blog or discussion forum, and comments about the subject of an article are not appropriate here. Thanks! --Kevin Walter 14:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Promoting Sexual Tourism
There have been critics about some images in the trailer in which japaneses girsl touch the chest under the shirt of the main character and say: "welcome to Tokyo", that said it promoted sexual tourism. Should it be posted?
- No, having just seen the film, the few sexual references were largely overshadowed by the rest of the film. Frankly, I don't even remember the scene you're referring to. No one is there to "welcome" the main character when he first arrives in Tokyo. --Kevin Walter 16:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Me Neither, I don't remember that ever happening. koolboi141 18:48 20 June 06 (UTC)
[edit] 3rd Sequel Rumors and Projections
There is obviously nothing confirmed about a sequel this early, and the ending of this film wasn't seeming to hint at a sequel at all. Anything suggestive about a sequel anytime soon will be immediately removed. --Doctor Hexagon 20:34 29 June 06 (UTC)
[edit] Copyvio
The plot outline is directly taken from the Yahoo! Movies page for Tokyo Drift. (Link: http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808715999/details ). Someone want to do a re-write? --Stretch 04:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Confirmed rumor
Vin Diesel does appear at the very end of the film ~ Magicana
[edit] Did anyone see
Did anyone see
- 1993 Nissan Silvia S13: Earl
- 2000 Nissan Silvia S15: Boswell
Were they on screen for a second, had a body kit that changed the look, or did I just miss them?
The 2000 is the one Sean Boswell crashes at the beginning. Its silver with blue and red I think. It was originally Han's until he let him use it to race the DK. koolboi141 - 18:42 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I saw the film again and did notice that the "Mona Lisa" was an S15. I think what throw me off was that it was RB not SR powered. ZoliElo - June 22, 2006; 16:07 (UTC/GMT)
[edit] The 180km/h Police car problem
I've tried hard to research it, but i'm drawing up unverifiable sources. Would han's claim of "Cop cars won't pursue over 180km/h" be moot due to the useage of Speed Cameras? I know two play a minor role in the Chiba-kun segments in the Video Option DVD's.--293.xx.xxx.xx 23:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
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- I've never known cops in Japan, nor have I seen the movie. But there are essentially two types of policies on police pursuits. 1. Restricted - whereas officers must have permission to initiated a vehicle pursuit, typically restricted to no more than two cars and supervisors must oversee the pursuit and is allowed to call it off if danger to innocents, civilians or officrs are in danger. 2. Discretionary - the officers on the scene make the decision about whether or not to engage in a pursuit, often times restricted to the number of cars involved. Speed cameras don't make it a moot point, it certainly helps in apprehension if the suspect is successful in evasion. Typically though, there's no set speed limit on a pursuit, if a murderer is doing 180 km/h on the freeway and isn't endangering civilians or other innocents, its possible that a police officer would initiate a pursuit. Batman2005 03:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Most Japanese cars have a factory-installed 180 km/h speed limiter. They can be removed, but I don't know the conditions. The vehicles in the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department that have still have the speed limiter are vehicles that aren't meant to go over 180 km/h (e.g. Toyota Hiace, Toyota Vitz), or aren't primarily used for pursuits (e.g. Nissan Cedric). The cars that are specifically meant to pursue street racers are de-limited. These cars include the Mazda RX-7, Nissan Fairlady Z, Nissan Skyline 350GT, Nissan Skyline GT-R, etc. --HashiriyaGDB 17:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC) (forgot to sign)
The car in the movie was a Toyota Crown.--293.xx.xxx.xx 08:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm from Taiwan, and the way they do it here is, they will track your speed and snap a photo if you are in violation of speed limit regulations. They will not attempt dangerous pursuits (why add to the danger to other road users?) and attempt to spin the runaway suspect out of control possibly onto traffic in the opposite direction, as seen on numerous USA cop-chase pull-over videos. Presumably the Japanese cops enforce the law in this passive manner as well. It is clear that the cop cars in the US are intended for speed chases. Peter Shen 163.13.129.121 04:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Soundtrack errors
The soundtrack info listed track #2 as "Six Days" and was linked to Six Days, which is a completely unrelated article. I have the soundtrack and the track is actually titled "Six Days The Remix" — Also, track #9 was incorrect. The song listed was a different title and artist than what is actually on the soundtrack. I made the appropriate corrections. S3BST3R 05:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- Heh, you beat me to it. I just picked up a copy myself. :-) --Kevin Walter 14:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Audience's Responses
The so-called Audience's Responses have been removed as uncited and weasel words. Please do not add them back. --Kevin Walter 14:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
THEY ARE NOT WEASEL WORDS!
If you don’t want this page to be bias, than why do you only have negative reviews posted in the “critics’ response” section!?! This makes the film look horrible. I am writing about how it was perceived by the general public and fans of the series. Besides most critics are bias anyway. Everyone knows they have condemned almost all action movies, so by even posting a critics’ response you are being prejudice toward the genre of this movie. You better do something to illustrate the film’s impact on most of the people who have watched it, because trust me, in general they do not have the same idea of what a good movie is in comparison to the critics. And if you don’t believe me, read some of the user comments on imdb.com. Most of the people on there loved the movie and were pleasantly surprised with its quality. Now, if you want to remove the positive aspects of this film, than the only way to make the site truly “neutral” would be to also remove the negative reviews you are parading around!
Maybe you just want me to site my references. But tell me, am I really supposed to cite my colleagues, my friends, my family, my acquaintances and the random users of imdb.com?
And is not the general perception of a film on its die-hard fans (if not all of pop culture) worthy enough to be a section of this page? You people didn’t seem to mind the ones written on Jurassic Park III and on the Dirty Harry series. Can we at least post something on the box office success?
Until you come up with a better solution, I am going to restore this page's “neutrality” and place the Audience’s Response back in, only now I will label it “Fans’ Response” just to make a slight compromise. Hey, I’ll even take out the part about it being great entertainment.
- The current wording does seem to avoid weasel words, however I think a rewrite of the entire "Reaction" section should be done, perhaps with a few more varied critic opinions (I believe Ebert & Roeper split on this film). I have still added the {{fact}} template. A citation should be made to a reputable source that discusses fan reactions. --Kevin Walter 09:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Please sign your comments.--293.xx.xxx.xx 05:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Should I make a citation for imdb, since that is where I found both the box office and the reasoning for why the fans liked the film? If yes, how would I go about making one for it? - User 207.119.112.27
[edit] Story Outline/Plot Outline/Whatever.....
Do we really need these two in the same articel when either one will suffice?--293.xx.xxx.xx 05:06, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- This article is definitely a work in progress, so I suspect they are both there as a final plot outline is composed from the top (apparently copied from a press release) and the bottom one. --Kevin Walter 09:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] A Sequel?
There is probably going to be a sequel but does anyone know anything about it being made yet or whats it going to be about? koolboi141 27 July 06 (UTC)
- "Probably" is not the same as "has been confirmed and should be added to the article." --Kevin Walter 11:15, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rumours
Do we still need the rumours from before the release of the film on here? --Stretch 06:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
It was information from before the film was released, and the nature of the film did lead to alot of controversy and critisism. --293.xx.xxx.xx 12:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
- Even so, the 'Rumours and Information leaked prior to release' section is relatively pointless, as it mostly deals with what cars were suspected to be in the film. As there is a list of CONFIRMED cars in the film, why have rumours? --Stretch 07:44, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sean's EVO is a IX not VIII
Mitsubishi didn't make an EVO VIII in 2006. Plus the actual car is definitely an IX ( http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=115637 ). It's confusing though as the front bumper more resembles a VIII than an IX. A related note, it's one of a couple RWD EVOs. One of the customized rwd EVO's is used for Formula D.
[edit] Cast list
Most movies have a cast list, and I just want someone to make it. I just returned the movie to hollywood, and i just like it if someone who owns it to list the cast for me.
[edit] Plot outline
The way the plot outline Reads, it makes my brain want to leap down into my chest and strangle my heart so that I can't possibly read it again, and I actually fear it may have made me sterile. I'll start a partial re-write when I get back from work in a few hours, unless someone wants to start earlier. Churba 16:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree. The plot outline seems to ridiculously opinionated - yes, it may be an 'amazing' scene, but that's simply an opinion. Terms such as 'beats the crap out of' seem a little out of place on Wikipedia, too. Also, some of the descriptions seem to be wrong. For instance, when DK confronts Han at Han's garage, DK pulls the gun after their dialogue and the line "It's what we do". General clean-up would be appreciated. - Trick.
It is, admittedly, taking more time than I thought - But it should be up within the next three days, Brisbane time. Churba 13:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I did some work on the last paragraph. Petershen1984 12:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] it was a 70 plymouth GTX not a duster
here you said the car was a 70 duster but it really is a 70 GTX,ive owned 6 Dusters and 2 GTX's,the GTX is longer and wider and more boxed shaped then the duster —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.119.100.202 (talk • contribs).
