Talk:The Mamas & the Papas
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[edit] Not Enough on Band's Success
It seems to me that the majority of this article is about the personal lives of the members of the band, rather than it's actual music. Wouldn't it be better if there was a bit more on things such as the success of albums and singles, and the musical styles of the band? - Tangerine 03 10:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Yes. — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Article Not Neutral
This article is not neutral, I mean who told you that Superman slept with wonder woman? Even though, we should be very careful and we shouldn't accuse super heroes of such stuff. Same goes for the Mama's and papa's. The editor of this article is subtley suggesting that there was some kind of orgy going on in the group. I strongly disagree. In addition, Michelle Philips is portrayed as an indecent woman, while she's in fact a very fine lady who wore a chastity belt until she married her husband. Peace.
- True. Bill Clinton, Madonna and Teddy Kennedy are stil virgins. And OJ simpson and Adolf Hitler are innocent (until proven Guilty).
Ah, yeah, Nikki Sixx and Blackie Lawless also wear chastity belts. In fact their Mamas still hold the keys. www.jpfo.org
- Hey buddy, Chill, Frank miller told us that Superman slept with wonder woman in the Dark Knight Strikes Again, they had a daughter....
- I'm removing the neutrality tag because I really can't see why it's there. This article is as neutral as It could be written in my opinion. There's no need for over reaction.
- ☭ Zippanova 03:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Michelle Phillips was a good singer
Michelle Phillips was named by Time magazine as "the purest soprano in popdom". Even if this is exaggerated, she was a respected vocalist and this article's comment about her inability to sing seems rather gratuitous. She sang lead on the hit 'Dedicated to the One I Love' so the public probably thought she sang well enough.
- I just took the information from my sources. If you think it is POV or inaccurate, change it (with the info you mention above). Also, next time, please sign your post (even if you aren't signed in). You can do this with three or four tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). Most people prefer four as it also puts in a timestamp. Peace. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:12, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
[edit] & or and?
An anon user just changed The Mamas & the Papas to The Mamas and the Papas. I've seen the former used much more often than the latter. And, IMHO, it looks better. Anyone have a preference? Should we change it back? I want to... — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:43, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Dear Mr. Frecklefoot
Dear Mr. Frecklefoot, the spelling of The Mamas and the Papas, as such, is the correct way and it looks just fine to me. Of course that is the way it was most used back in the 1960s when I was a young college student. It has been writen other ways as well. I am 63 years of age today and was once myself into the Mamas & Papas. Infact, I was a "Mama" wannabe in my youth.---Karen Lachey
- Dear Ms. Lachey,
- You needn't start a new section to respond to my original post. Indenting your response just below mine—like I am here—is fine. You also needn't address me by name. Just dash out your response. Thank you for signing your post, but the wiki way of doing it is by typing 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~). The software takes care of inserting your username (or IP address, in your case) for you. The latter form is preferred since it also adds a timestamp. Peace. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 13:44, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Camelot
The paragraph that states something like "their relationship was just like camelot", what???????!!!! I think that section probably needs a good cleanup (I would do it, but don't know enough about the subject matter).
- I thought I was being eloquent. :-) It just occured to me while I was writing it. And I totally think the analogy is sound. But, hey, feel free to clean it up as you see fit. I can't help it if our readers aren't familiar with classic musicals. (BTW, it's just "Frecklefoot," not "Mr. Frecklefoot"). — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:56, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Confusing?
What's confusing about the article? Please list your gripes here. I thought it was coherent when I initially wrote it, but thinks may have gotten bonked around since then. If you don't specify what's wrong, we can't fix it. Thanks. — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] In Reference To Monterey Pop Festival Performance
The article states the the Mamas & Papas performed dismally at the Monterey Pop Festival. The main reason behind this was not in their vocals- though they did hit a few klinkers here and there, it was tuning problems with John Phillips' capoed 12 string electric and the other player. The singers did a very good job keeping the melody rolling with these two guys who could not solve the tuning issues. I have both the CD box set and the DVD of the festival and it does not take much to notice that this was the problem. I had added this info to the article but it appears to have been taken out. Oh well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gretschcc (talk • contribs).
- If you cited the information, it would've been fine. Since it wasn't cited, it looked like POV observation. Wikipedia doesn't allow original research. Giving your impression by emperical observation is original research. Quoting a noted industry insider or columnist isn't. — Frecklefoot | Talk 18:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks. However, take a meander at the CD or DVD and that will back my statement.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gretschcc (talk • contribs).
- I'm not going to buy the CD or DVD to check your statements. CDs and DVDs are appropriate material to cite. You can add the information back in yourself, adding the DVD as the source of the information. However, the information that they performed poorly comes from Denny Doherty himself (from his website). — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Not enough of band's significance
This article gives a pretty thorough account of the lives of the band members, but there doesn't seem to be much mention of their place within music history: the sort of music they played, any innovations, their influences in both directions, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.188.229.230 (talk • contribs).
- Well, if you have that sort of information, go ahead and add it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 23:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Michelle Phillips
I'm glad M.Phillips was listed as the last surviving member of the 'original' group (Mamas and Papas). If it hadn't said 'original' Jill Gibson would have to be listed as a surviving member as well (see Michelle Phillips). GoodDay 22:45, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
